How many genders are there?

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    We've come to accept that boys have a penis and girls have a vagina. Leaving aside the fact that there are other variations, the definition does not help us much to include how the mind of a boy or a girl work.

    If we assume that the definition of "boy" is "a person with a penis", and of "girl" is "a person with a vagina", that is a definition that has been historically accepted. Very difficult to let it go. But it is a binary choice. And, for that reason, it's not going to hold much longer, I'm afraid. Scientific research does not show that the binary choice is sufficient for most practical purposes, other than reproduction.

    Hey! Don't take this out on me. It's not my fault! But this distinction is just going to disappear. Because, as a binary choice, it's not that useful. I mean... are you a straight boy? a gay girl? a boy who developed a female brain pattern? a girl with male gonads? a boy with high natural levels of estrogen? Is your "brain sex" the same as your anatomical sex? Be aware that the "anatomical sex" and the "brain sex" develop independently at different stages of gestation. So there is no reason that we know of why they should be the same.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0018506X09000610?via=ihub

    In no small part, the actual "brain gender" is acquired socially. But, if you have been watching any recent Netflix series, you know that's not going to last much longer.

    So science does not support the concept that there are two genders. Not if, by gender, we are talking about the whole spectrum of factors: biological, anatomical, social, psychological, psychiatric, .... that differentiates us sexually.
    https://doi.apa.org/manuscript/2018-32185-001.pdf

    I know you have been brought up with this idea in your head. And you are told by right wing media that believing the contrary is "ridiculous". But this is the moment you need to abandon it. Right now! Or your descendants are going to consider you a "dinosaur".

    Consider how you now think of how your ancestors probably believed that the Earth was flat. Or that the Sun revolved around the Earth. Or that smoking was a great cure for a sore throat. Or that wearing radioactive ornaments was good for your health. Or that homosexuality was a disease....

    Yep! What you think of people who believed those things is what your grandchildren or greatgrandchildren will think about your beliefs, if you decide to stay on the wrong side of science and history.
     
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  2. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    In the end times, they were correct...all sorts of perversions would be promoted as "normal".

    Just because you want to call up, "down" and call nighttime as "daytime" does not mean others must participate in your delusion denial of common sense and known observations.

    Something has seriously gone wrong with society.

    OP, since you present yourself to be such a fan of "science" please locate an entry level biology textbook for basic guidance on this issue and never have the temerity and gall to EVER call anyone a "science denier" again!

    Time to feed my dog, I guess I'll call him "Nemo" and start giving him little pinches of fish food for dinner.
     
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    My question is does this question conflate gender with sexual preference? Gender is pretty well defined by science at the DNA and physical level; sexual preference, not so much.
     
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    In the liberal mind, the world is nothing more than possibilities. Even if science and biology get in the way. It wasn't all that long ago that these kinds of ramblings were something that got you referred for actual medical treatment.

    For the foreseeable future though, if you're looking for a job, you should "self identify" as a black female. You'll get any job you apply for. Simply use the above BS logic to your HR folks, and say, "like gender, race cannot be a finite thing", or some such. As long as the HR department get's to check those boxes, they'll be happy to have a great, talented new employee, even if you still call yourself Bob.
     
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    But thank you for providing a great example of how mixing junk "science" with politics is a greater danger than ever mixing religion with politics.
     
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    The very concept of evolution supports the concept of two genders.

    Whenever any organism reproduces, over time there are mutations. Those mutations survive or disappear depending on the mutation itself. In order to reproduce, it requires two genders. Male and female. That is the reason why the dominate genders are male and female. There are rare species in the animal and plant world that have reproduced with only one gender.

    Within the human race, those other "genders" are anomalies. They are real and occur in a small percent of the population. However, they are doomed to be anomalies. We can put other labels on them, but they will remain anomalies forever or at least until they discover a way to reproduce.

    It is not beyond possible, that they will somehow figure out how to change these anomalies so that they can reproduce. Until that happens, they will remain anomalies with no way to reproduce.
     
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    I think you're picking at the right sore here. For some reason, even the LBGT folk seem to believe they need an explanation for their orientation that includes a scientific one. The horror that many of these superficial folks don't seem to understand is that if there could be an identification that could be tested to derive one's orientation, it could just as easily be used to eliminate that set of outcomes. And why would anyone who is well adjusted and gay really want that to happen?

    I blame wokists who just cannot ever find happiness regardless of the number of accommodations folks make for them. At some point, we just really need to ignore them entirely for their stupidity.
     
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    I’m in an odd boat because I support gay people but I don’t believe in transsexualism and I’m liberal.
     
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    If there is no such thing as gender and gender is a social construct. Then there is no such thing as a boy or a girl. And if that's the case then there is no such thing as a trans. (because there was no transition since boy or girl doesn't exist) and there also is no such thing as gay men or lesbians, since both descriptors rely on the concept of boy or girl. There is no such thing as straight, since straight also relies on boy or girl.

    Once you tear down language, you break the means of communication.

    In this dumb ass new world, one now has to be very descriptive to tell me what the hell their sexual preference is. (since woman can now have a penis and a man a vagina...) Simply saying the parts of the body you are interested in, now isn't enough to tell me anything.

    Which is why gender is not a ****ing social construct. It is a descriptor of your sex. We use this word as a descriptor for what you are, and you in turn can use this word as a descriptor for what your sexuality is.

    Liberals ****ing with the english language as a cry for attention and to feel special.

    And we placate it because they are the louder voice.
     
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    As far as I’m concerned there are two. But if someone needs/wants to believe there are 863 genders then have at it. Doesn’t impact my life one bit.
     
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    A lot has changed since the Earth was flat and there were only 2 genders.

    You still can't milk a turtle!
     
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    They sure ignore biology and science when it comes to male vs female but take a different take on climate change.
     
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    You can if your veerrrryyyyyy patient.
     
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    per OP and the silliness of his post...

    gender is based on chromosome. XX - female, XY - male. You can cut off your penis, implant one.. grow boobs or have them removed but you will remain XY or XX. There are also XXY and XYY abnormalities, but we can also have them identify as XXY or XYY.

    I say we scratch male, female, woman, man as liberals have decided these words mean nothing. From now on let's keep to the science, just as liberals want us to keep it to the science with climate change. Let's identify as XX or XY... in our birth certificates, IDs, applications, all profiles.... Now we know who's who... irrespective of what you have to done to alter your physical characteristics. Only fair isn't?
     
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    There are only two genders and three sexual preferences, they being straight, gay and bi sexual. Trans is not a gender, it's a body identification. Now the question I have is, if a man becomes a woman and he likes women, is he gay or straight?
     
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    Which is why we're the ones that create everything.
     
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    For the sake of argument
    ALL genders can reproduce.
     
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    Arrogance is not considered a creation.
     
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    lol, sure.
     
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    Don't want to derail as you left other variations out, but I think the reality of those born with both sex organs is pertinent here.
     
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    It's what "stage 4" science looks like. Sorry if you find it traumatic. People were just as traumatized when they learned that humans evolved from other species, and the the Earth was round. But most of them got over it. I'm sure you will to.
     
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    Gooblygunk BS. Why have words for anything? Lets just call anything whatever tickles our fancy and invoke "science"...hallowed be thy cultish name! :rolleyes::thumbsdown::toilet::roflol:
     
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    scratch man, woman, female, male... they mean nothing anymore, thanks to dems.

    We are either XY, XX... now i'll know who you are, irrespective of how you have altered your body.
     
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    there are two main genders, but... there is a large sliding scale of feminism and masculinity

    there is the one that produces eggs, and those that produce sperm.... some do both, some do neither, but for the most part that is what we consider the genders.. with some exceptions

    sexual attraction is also a sliding scale, anyone that thinks it's a choice is bi-sexual, the rest of us never had a choice

    what most people mean is a female soul can occupy a male body and visa versa... if you believe we are more than our bodies
     
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