How many genders are there?

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  1. Mircea

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    So is machine language, which is either one or zero.

    Who conducted that research? Dr. Mengele?

    Yes, it does. It's called DNA. Look into it.

    The primary function of every living organism that has existed, exists now, or will exist in the future is to propagate its species to ensure its survival.

    That's science, and there's no getting around that.

    Thus, we can clearly see that homosexuality, transgenderism and transsexualism are anathema to life itself.

    Yes, it does impact your life and in a negative way, because the federal, State and local governments waste valuable tax-payer time and money crafting endless rules and regulations about them which costs you lots of money.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you're on the wrong side of science and psychology. Those lucky enough to be born healthy do not benefit from people like you telling them they are defective. That is no different than religious people telling them they are an abomination. Surgery and clothing do not change who we are on the inside. Wearing a dress is considered feminine here, but in other parts of the world, an elongated head and neck is considered feminine.

    Is the superficial social construct of image superior to the beliefs of years ago? Did those people believe they are as right as you believe you are now?
     
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    Govt wasting tax-payer money on this impacts my life no more than the endless array of things govt wastes tax-payer money on.
     
  4. Pycckia

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    If you can't measure it, it doesn't exist.
     
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    I wonder if the differences arose because transgenders are poisoning themselves with cross sex hormones.
     
  6. Golem

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    Yes, but it's much more complex than that. As I commented on the OP.
     
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    We do segregate bathrooms based on gender. Same for the other things. And this is becoming more and more common. It's not going to stop. Because it's supported by science.
     
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    LOL.. again, based on a set of fallacies that you now yourself recognize. It's hard to conclude truth based on that.
     
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    I don't have to tell anybody anything. If they consider themselves defective because they feel they were born with the wrong sexual organs, that can be corrected.
     
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    No we do not segregate bathrooms based upon gender. We segregate them based upon SEX. If we segregated based upon gender we would have to have 500 different bathroom types in every building.
     
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    I think maybe it shows that is a greater scope of what is "normal man" or "normal woman" attributes rather than separate genders.
     
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    They have no idea which parts should or should not be there until they are given a point of reference. Religious people may tell the child that their feelings come from a demon and force conversion therapy. Others will tell a healthy child they are defective and need drugs and surgery to "fix" them.

    Telling them "You have the wrong parts" is not science; its is more of a religion and results show it can do more harm than good.

    Those lucky enough to be healthy could believe they are perfect the way they are.
     
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    We segregate them based on which gender people identify themselves closest to. It's not the perfect scenario. But we're working on it. It will get better with time. There is no turning back.
     
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    It does the opposite. It shows that the concepts of "normal man" or "normal women" are shaky at best.
     
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    There are two genders - male and female.
     
  16. Golem

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    The reference point is themselves. Whatever the hell makes them feel better, that's what they should do. And now there are surgical procedure that can sometimes help them do exactly that.

    I'm talking about adults. Not children.
     
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    You are moving further away from science. A reference point is needed to consider ones self defective. As far as making them feel better, suicide rates among transgenders show that is an unreasonable expectation.

    Who we are as an adult is the total sum of our experiences up until that point. Unless one has amnesia, childhood experience is scientifically relevant. Were you not aware of puberty blockers being given to children?
     
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    Fair enough so what is gender?
     
  19. Patricio Da Silva

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    Well, science doesn't always get it right, though it might get it right most of the time.

    In my entire life, observing humanity, animals, and plants, I've seen only males and females.

    There is the rare anomoly but that fact doesn't change things.

    Some woke scientists are trying to say there are more than one sex. There are anomalies of nature that point to that, but to say it's more than an anomaly, that it's the normal state of biology, that's where woke culture infects one's view.

    From an evolutionary perspective, why would their be more than two? It doesn't make sense.

    Either you can give birth, or your provide those who can give birth with the means to give birth. If you can't do either, you are an anomaly.

    If you are something else, you or it are an anomaly of nature, you are not the norm, you are an aberration. That doesn't make you any less human, of course.

    There is a 'woman' on YouTube, a woman in every way, though she was born with testicles which were ensconced in her abdomen.
    She had male chromosomes, and she also had a vagina and was able to give birth. When she was of age, she had those testicles removed. ( I think she did). In listening to her speak and watching her you would not be able to tell she had male chromosomes. She is a woman in every respect.

    If some science wants to declare her something other than male or female, scientifically speaking, he or she would be correct.

    But, what is also scientifically correct is that she is an aberration of nature. Sometimes nature ****s up, but whether that changes things that has to do with culture, and nothing more.

    Aberrations in nature are natural, but they are not 'normal'.

    I wholly reject what my eyes have seen all my life, that there are basically two sexes, male and female.

    The rest is just a bullshit argument, an attempt to shift the anomaly into the 'non-anomoly' ( normal ) category, let's not forget that culture is full of bullshit, that doesn't mean we, or I, or anyone, have to accept it.

    Really, Golem, this crap is destroying the left. It really is. Let their be males and females, and I will go as far as letting post op transexuals be women, Otherwise,, y'all are pushing things too far.

    Yes, I know many males and females have components of the opposite sex. AS do I. I am bisexual but I am a man. I have stronger female attributes compared to most men, but I'm a man, still. Unlike some gays who hate the fact they are gay, and decide not to be gay by becoming woman, I have decided I accept who I am, and I would have been delighted if I were born a woman, but I wasn't, I was born a man and I believe that by accepting who I am, I am stronger for it.

    I know the male sex, men lie about sex. They would lie to God, Himself, let alone congress, on the subject of sex. So, when a gay man tells me he wants to switch genders, fine. I am suspicious of the sincerity of his intentions, though, because of the fact of what I know about the male species. If he is willing to go the nine yards, get the operation, well, that's pretty drastic, and I'll give them the benefit of the doubt if they go that far. Some trans females one cannot tell. Those I believe. Yet others look and sound like men in drag, like transvestites, and those I hold as suspect in their sincerity. But, that's just me.
     
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    No we segregate them the same way we have segregated them throughout the history of mankind. Which is by sex. Which is a perfect system because sex is immutable. Segregating by gender is moronic because you can change your gender at will and whenever you please.

    What the hell is the point of segregating by gender when you can simply change your gender as you see fit. What good is the segregation then? The people you’re segregating will simply change their gender to the other side.
     
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    If you spend your days and nights studying anomalies of nature you just might lose sight of that fact.

    Can a 'scientist' lose perspective? Sure he can.
     
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    Whether a scientist loses perspective or not is irrelevant. Because the only thing that matters in science is what they can PROVE using the scientific method and through peer-reviewed studies.

    Look... here's the bottom line: the genie is out of the bottle. There is no "reverse". The binary concept of "gender" is heading out the door. And there is nothing that will stop it. We can deny it, accept it, wish it weren't so... whatever you want. But it's now a fact of life. I, for one, would not step in front of that train and try to stop it. It would be like trying to reverse legalizing marijuana, or gay marriage, or climate change, or trying to stop private companies from taking over space travel... Just not gonna happen. Science is not going to reverse itself. It might get a bit better in defining what "gender" is. Maybe reduce it to a low number of categories... who knows. But the concept of binary gender is gone and will never return.

    Alea jacta est....
     
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    No we wouldn't.
     
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    So you've never heard of a unisex bathroom?
     
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