I don't post here much anymore because . . .

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    No, it doesn't revolve around the word "sh*t", but sometimes I just feel like saying it. And if I and others did use the word, it is hardly going to result in any of the negative's which you mentioned in your post - example, "I've had a sh*t day." And people are more than capable of "getting into pissing matches" and hurling abuse at eachother without the use of obscenities. If this forum is largely civilised, it is because it is effectively moderated, NOT because of language censorship.
     
  2. Mr_Truth

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    I just made my 15,000th post on PF!!!
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Does that mean you get a bonus!! :cheerleader:
     
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    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    let's hope so :)
     
  5. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In 15,000 words, tell us what you plan to do with such an accomplishment
     
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    I smell another participation trophy category ...
     
  7. Mr_Truth

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    I'm gonna continue to make Republicans cry:


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    that is, until they cry, "enough!"


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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately, you did not meet the 15,000 word minimum so I can't give you the car.
     
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    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    that's quite ok as I do not drive

    besides, I'm now retired and am in no hurry to get anywhere - that's why I prefer to hitch a ride with Harold Lloyd on his horse drawn trolley:


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    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't want to hitch a ride with Lloyd Christmas?
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  11. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    nah

    this is what I call genuine class:








    Harold Lloyd - considered by past critics as second only to the great Charles Chaplin as Hollywood's greatest comedian of the old era
     
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    So why did you bother posting this ditty?
     
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    Civility's "trappings" should always be paramount. Else this will become Facebook, or even /b
     
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    I took a long break after Trump's inauguration. Trump and Facebook were more than enough to oversaturate my trolling tolerance buffer. It's hard to watch people so vigorously defend a pathologically dishonest charlatan while simultaneously pretending they have any credibility left to speak about "the truth". Nothing I have seen since the election has provided opposing evidence to my feeling this past election was much more about voters voting against other voters than it was about the two corrupt liars(Trump and Clinton) most folks were voting for. This was a true left people vs right people election, the candidates themselves probably could have been anybody. And there's no sign that this trend will abate any time soon. Humanity needs more time to adapt to the blitz of information, both real and fake, and the direct hotline to every passing unfiltered thought a person might have on a daily basis that social media has brought about.
     
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    My only objection is a practical matter. I didn't vote for Clinton because I liked her or hated righties [I was a Republican for half of my adult life and now Independent]. I voted for Clinton because it was her or trump. And while Clinton is a crook, trump is fantastically dangerous. He IS destroying this country. It dies a little more every day he is in office. He capitalized on the chaos created by social media and won by creating division and hate; and even offering to pay the legal bills for attacking a protester. In short, trumpers elected a mob boss.
     
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    Then "vigorous respectful debate" is a fantasy, and PF can never be anything more than a place where we can whisper sweet little nothings into one another's itching ears.
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Debate can be vigorous and still remain respectful and civil, in fact it has to do that. Once you become a lout most people don't listen any more, I know this from hard personal experience.
     
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    And I never said otherwise, obviously.

    The day that becomes true, the post count here will drop by 90%.
     
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    Yes, but real life is also boring. That's why I'm back after two years.
     
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    The only reason I don't post here much is because I'm not getting notifications in my email. Sometimes the notificanions work and sometimes not.
     
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    Most of you guys all joined a decade or more after me. I remember the old days, and you all disappoint me. Do try to do better would you? :p
     
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    I’m starting to lose interest in this place. You aren’t allowed to call stupidity by what it is, which naturally slants the rules of this forum in favor of Trump supporters. No wonder there’s a four to one ratio of trump supporters to liberals.

    I would love to see a rule where sources have to be cited for claims or the post gets deleted. And yeah the source needs to be reputable. No citing the daily stormer or anything like it.

    I’d like to see a rule that disallows the promotion of racism as an explanation for various societal problems.

    But that’s not to be. Instead we have rules designed to make sure nobody can ever be told anything negative about themselves and sorry but thats just institutionalizing an illusion.
     
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    Never ever type the letters of M A xxxx A. A spin off of MAGA.
     
  24. a better world

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    Speaking of money, I have this debate going elsewhere:

    <<<<<Thanks for this succinct description of money creation, albeit from an orthodox viewpoint.

    First point: you say "Banks are not creating money, only debts", but this statement from the Bank of England's website has a different take:

    "Where does money come from? In the modern economy, most money takes the form of bank deposits. But how those bank deposits are created is often misunderstood. The principal way in which they are created is through commercial banks making loans: whenever a bank makes a loan, it creates a deposit in the borrower’s bank account, thereby creating new money".

    positivemoney.org/2014/03/bank-england-money-money-creation-modern-economy/

    However, moving to your next point, ie:

    "Money enters the economy by being spent".

    This implies there is a fixed amount of money in the community, (a) that only enters the economy when someone who has money spends (some of) it, and more importantly (b) those who don't have money must borrow it, at least initially, in order to be able to participate in the economy….sounds like it would be smart to choose rich parents, to facilitate an unburdened (debt-free) start in life....a situation obviously incompatible with the concept of equality of opportunity.

    Moving to your next point, ie

    "A small quantity of money would require a higher velocity of exchange between persons while a large quantity of money would reduce the velocity by which money is exchanged."

    Again things are not so straightforward:

    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/v/velocity.asp

    "There are differing views among economists as to whether the velocity of money is a useful indicator of the health of an economy or, more specifically, inflationary pressures. The "monetarists" who subscribe to the quantity theory of money argue that money velocity should be stable absent changing expectations, but a change in money supply can alter expectations and therefore money velocity and inflation. For example, an increase in the money supply should theoretically lead to a commensurate increase in prices because there is more money chasing the same level of goods and services in the economy. The opposite should happen with a decrease in money supply. Critics, on the other hand, argue that in the short term, the velocity of money is highly variable, and prices are resistant to change, resulting in a weak and indirect link between money supply and inflation".

    which also leads us to your next statement

    " "New" money ONLY enters the economy as a result of being printed by the BEP, allowing banks to borrow from the Central source and maintain their fractional reserve requirements if savers need to withdraw large sums due to a recession, or borrowers default on their loans. The "NEW" money, effectively devalues the currency which will inevitably provide the means for inflation to occur in the future, ad infinitum".


    Again, this statement implies there is a certain amount of money in the economy, and therefore any "NEW" money will result in a devaluation of the currency, associated with (in your view) continual inflation.

    But obviously if the population doubles over time, then the money supply would also need to double, to simply maintain the standard of living of the community. (I already made this point, in a previous post).

    So...how do you double the supply of money, without devaluing the currency?

    Or does it even matter, if the currency is worth only half the value it was at the beginning of the period, during which the population doubled? (and your house is really only worth about the same, adjusted for inflation; you still have your house)>>>>>>

    Not sure if this too heavy for your discussion...but I'm working on the idea that government ought to be able create money for specific purposes such as universal education by printing it, rather than by taxation, since education does not involve consumption of scarce resources,

    But if you prefer to labour under our present dysfunctional, competitive neoliberal system which pits dems against repubs....carry on!
     
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    I talk about 'stupidity' all the time - the stupidity of the US, the UK and the western world generally; maybe that's the difference . . . generally, but not personal?
     
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