Isn't it time you yanks grew up over your gun death epidemic?

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Oz and the Orcestra, May 25, 2020.

  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    *Takes a look around at the crazed leftists destroying and looting liberal cities*

    Nope, I'm more than happy with the gun epidemic in America thankyouverymuch.

    It's looks more like we need to get over our leftist epidemic.
     
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    most of those who choose other methods do survive. Over 90% of non-firearm suicide attempts are not fatal.
     
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    I believe tobacco and alcohol should be greatly restricted. I am under a private prohibition of alcoholic beverages -- by the doctor who prescribes my Effexor.
     
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    All lives are created by G-d. They have innate value.
     
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    Then they failed to complete the process and in many cases become human vegetables, placing an unfair burnden on the the rest of a normal society, it's much better to allow them to complete the process, get out of the pain they are and burden no one any longer.
     
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    They may be created by the lord, but many drift off the moral path and then need to be removed from a civilized society, one way or another.
     
  7. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    Are you just generally in favor of draconian social control, or since you have a sad brain condition that denies you alcohol, nobody should have any?
     
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    Of course it drags everyone down to his level.

    Gotta share the misery, you know.
     
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    There are only two situations under which an individual survives an attempt at suicide. The first being the individual was not truly suicidal in the first place and was merely seeking attention and/or sympathy from others. The second being the individual was incompetent in their attempts and ultimately failed.

    The presentation on the part of yourself, however, is false. It is presented in a manner that suggests those who fail in their attempts at ending their own existence have a sudden epiphany and never go on to make another attempt on their lives, as their life conditions have suddenly improved as a result. This could not be further from the truth. Those who fail in their attempts find themselves in a worse condition than they were previously, being paralyzed, in a persistent vegetative state, in a coma, or some other serious medial condition where they require constant care just to keep them alive.

    The only reason that an individual who fails one attempt at ending their existence do not go on to commit a second attempt, is because they are physically incapable of trying again later due to their failure of the initial attempt. There are no exceptions to this.
     
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    Most of people who survive suicide attempts do not become handicapped.
     
  11. CCitizen

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    I disagree. Even the worst sinners can be redeemed.
     
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    In USA there are 44 million adults with Moderate Mental disability -- I am one of them.
    There are 10 million adults with Severe Mental Disability.
     
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    Psychologically, suicide is very difficult. Thus, most of those who attempt eventually fail.
     
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    Nothing's worse than a shotgun moving except having to clean up after it. Vegetation if you botch it, sure --- sometimes. Maybe a long lingering self-recriminating death in some hospital ward. Like DeSilva (the guy with the ruined face) said to James Bond, think on your sins---you coulda done it right.

    Liberals are miserable people inside. I've grown up in a VERY heavy university area where IQs are high and conversations to match. Suicide is common. Possibly terminal cognitive dissonance. They caught wise and couldn't take it.

    I'm surprised no leftist has started a company with a modified school bus style (but enclosed) vehicle with a nifty back area to send yourself off in style. Twenny-nine-ninety-nine, sign here. Human composting is now legal in one or more U.S. states. Sign up for lawn care today! Our illegals will come over and....
     
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    Contained, yes. Kept from harming more, certainly. Redeemed? Never. Those who are religious may cast prayers for anyone they like, and for any reason, but some of the worst killers cannot be redeemed and no mental hospital cell will solve that. Nor can it hold some of them. Some day a real-life SuperMax escape will happen. More deaths will occur.

    One bullet. Soviet Russia style. For suicides, proper instruction on how to swallow your weapon.
     
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    I am a former (24-year) smoker and deplore tobacco nazis telling grown-ups what to do with their lives. I know old smokers whose annual Xrays come clean. Others? Rip a lung out and here's your new oxygen bottle. You want to restrict the rights of drinkers as well. America's great electoral failure tried to do that. Prohibition, like COVID-19, became a deadly joke. Then the gangsters killed each other off. Today's it's Democrat governors and mayors letting animals run free.

    Your physician's concerns for your well-being do NOT extend to my taking orders to not do something (drinking, smoking, you name it) in the company of the complainant. Get a court order. It's our process.
     
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    Great that you have overcome smoking addiction. I hope no one should face challenges of addiction.
     
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    Then they were not truly suicidal to begin with, and were merely craving attention.

    As has been stated on the part of yourself, numerous times, suicide has never been contemplated on the part of yourself. Meaning that it is simply not possible for yourself to comprehend what goes through the mind of an individual who wishes to end their own existence. Therefore do not speak on the subject as if you know what is going on.
     
  19. Creasy Tvedt

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    And strict regulation of alcohol and tobacco would change that how exactly?
     
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    Our gun deaths are concentrated to ghetto areas that cannot seem to or have no desire to assimilate into the population. Study our history a little and learn why we feel the individual is supreme and we don't cotton to the idea Government and it's agents should be the only ones to bear arms.
     
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    Wonder what the choice method of suicide is in gun restricted countries?
     
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    Then such groups are in the minority and have no business speaking out in opposition of the will of the majority, which they hold discriminates against them on the basis that they are not taken care of.
     
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    Not eradicate but decrease tobacco and alcohol consumption.
     
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    We can only appeal to the good will of the Majority.
     
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    So you consider yourself to be a subset of society?

    That's really effed up.
     

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