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Just curious, what would happen if an independent became PRES?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Darthcervantes, Feb 24, 2021.

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  1. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...I worry about the law of unintended consequences.
     
    Surfer Joe, Feb 26, 2021
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  2. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    What sorts of consequences?...
     
    Meta777, Feb 26, 2021
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  3. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OMG! Poor widdle Donnie! Everybody's picking on him!

    Welcome to the victim/grievance cult(ure). :disbelief:
     
    Sleep Monster, Feb 26, 2021
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  4. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    That's just it there is no such thing as non partisan. Everyone that comes here is a partisan of a certain set of ideas. Now they may not wholly line up with D's or r's but they are not the less partisans of those ideas.
     
    garyd, Feb 26, 2021
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  5. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Voting is already too complex for many. Ranked voting would create too much confusion, IMO.

    Which of the six or so types of ranked voting did you have in mind?
     
    Sleep Monster, Feb 26, 2021
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  6. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well I think at some point, you aren't one or the other. For example you could be a person that believes in small taxes, border control but also believes pro choice and gay marriage. What would they be then? I'd say independent. I would say when they are 60% or more for the ideas of ONE side, then they would be on that side (because they'd probably vote that way)
     
    Darthcervantes, Feb 26, 2021
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just described why I've never joined a party. Some of us just don't fit into their tidy little buckets.
     
    Sleep Monster, Feb 26, 2021
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  8. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    The point isn't that you must be a partisan of either r or d but that you are a partisan of some group of more or less political ideas or you wouldn't be coming to a politics site in the first place.
     
    garyd, Feb 26, 2021
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  9. Meta777

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    If complexity is the sticking point, then we should just go with Instant Runoff.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?goto/post&id=1068992191 (Instant Runoff process walk through bottom of the post)

    People already know how regular Runoff Elections work, so an Instant Runoff system should not be too difficult for most folks to wrap their heads around. As long as the ballots are sensible, Instant Runoff is simple enough such that there shouldn't be much more in the way of confusion compared to what we have now. And of course we'd then get the added benefit of moderate and or independent candidates then becoming more realistic options for voters to choose and less of all that "lesser evil" stuff...

    -Meta
     
    Meta777, Feb 26, 2021
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  10. Bullseye

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    I think you may be stretching the semantic of “partisan” a bit. In the political arena “partisan” means in accordance with party tenets.
     
    Bullseye, Feb 26, 2021
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  11. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Uh ... to whom were you addressing this? Usually one uses the Reply button.
     
    Sleep Monster, Feb 26, 2021
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  12. Bullseye

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    Huh? Seems pretty clear.
     
    Bullseye, Feb 26, 2021
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  13. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Partisan simply means to be an adherent of... It mentions nothing about a specific political party or any political. One can be an adherent of or partisan of eating healthier and exercising more.
     
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    garyd, Feb 26, 2021
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  14. Bullseye

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    Ok, fine.
     
    Bullseye, Feb 26, 2021
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    In France, Macron was "independant" (just backed up by most billionaires and their newspapers), he created his parti and got a bunch of opportunists from both the right wing and the left wing. So it depend what kind of "indenpendant" it is. The political situation is quite different in France from USA, because we don't have this two parti system, even if for a long time the right wing parti (they changed their name a lot) and the PS (left wing parti).

    So maybe you will get a Macron one day, when people would be too much fed up with democrats and republican, so they could get republicans and democrats in disguise.
     
    VotreAltesse, Feb 28, 2021
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