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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, dude. You've been given very clear and direct evidence by more than one poster.

    Any claim of ignorance on your part is entirely willful.
     
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    No one believes this about covid-19 or they would be wearing goggles. None do. They would be ranting against mass gatherings of protesters - but instead cheer them.

    Why aren't most Democrats fleeing the USA? They make it clear that economics and income are irrelevant to them and that they can live on zero income. All that matters is covid-19. So why don't they leave and go to Mexico where they can be safe? The reason is few believe their own words.

    It's all politics. All lies. Almost no one even believes the lies. Rather, most Democrats believe 24/7 bio-terrorism and destroying the US economy - harming and destroying as many tens of millions of Americans as possible - will give them power. Not all Democrats think this, but the majority apparently do. Even some Republicans are stupid enough to fall for the 24/7 MSM bio-terrorism campaign.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You haven't been paying attention. There is no way this disease magically disappears on 11/4. Maybe 5/4/2021.
     
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    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you explain the excess of 122,000 deaths from March 1 to May 30, 2020? Those extra people died of something.
     
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    I'll respond to this part, I guess, but the rest is just pure silliness.

    Public health methods (the only methods we have) fully depend on cooperation of a population. Medical science has promoted a level of response that has been showen to be effective if followed. CDC and the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases have not identified wearing goggles or other face shields as being important for the general public.

    I strongly suggest reading the plan for opening our economy that is on WhiteHouse.gov.
     
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    Covid19 is almost 3x worse than Flu'17. 61000 people died from Flu'17, and we're very nearly into '20 now.

    It just doesnt seem to me like 3x worse warrants the response we've taken. 10x worse might... maybe.

    And its worth noting that in previous flu seasons, we weren't counting all flu-infected patients who died as flu deaths, like we are doing with Covid19, so the increase is somewhere between slightly and dramatically less than it appears.
     
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    Actually, the opposite is true. The reported flu numbers are extrapolated from a calculation. Our worst recent flu year accounts for 15,000 deaths, if we use the COVID style reporting.

    We've had 122,000 excess deaths from March 1 to May 30, 2020. That's quite a lot over.
     
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    Of course not but the hysteria over it will in my opinion. This is the first political virus outbreak that I can remember. Politics should cool on Nov 4.
     
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    Doubtful. The disease won't go away, and people aren't going to stop talking about it. There are all the holidays in the next two months. Lots of discussion will be around that. How do you have all the grandparents at a holiday gathering when they are the most at risk?

    It could be a painful six-week holiday season.

    Good Friday is one of the big money makers for retail. How's that going to go? Thousands of people lining up at Walmart at 8:00 on Thanksgiving night to save $50 on a TV? It'll be super.
     
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    Save the QAnon nonsense please
     
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    The idea that this virus keeps abreast of US federal election politics and makes decisions on that basis is really pretty astounding.

    Have you discussed French and German politics with this virus, too?
     
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    It appears you have forgotten your post.
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    I got you some numbers. I think they represent many.
     

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    Funny thing about ignorance .......... dude. Is yours as selective as it is voluntary? :nana:
    Me thinks it is you who has failed to respond to what I said by not having actually read my post.
    The percentage of those who die is the point here, NOT the numbers of infected. "Many" (the term used by Lesh) is a suggestive notion and can only be appraised by those who choose to do so. There is NOTHING ....
    ..... to disagree with by stating that as a fact.

    The crux of the debate is that Sweden says the percentages are acceptable. Other nations say "no" and the fact that this discrepancy is being debated is probably behind the "hoax" theories that are being increasingly whispered just about everywhere.

    I have taken no stance, made no judgement, nor any statement on what is acceptable and what is not. Are we clear now :?:
     
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    Try again tomorrow when you can think more clearly.
     
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    You should consider reading the post to which you respond. I said the politics would be over, not the virus.
     
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    The medical science is not going to change.

    The methods of fighting communicable disease through public health means are not going to change. That won't change until we have created and can administer a working vaccine or find some other solution that we most definitely do not have today.

    You think that is political. That is not political.
     
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    The politics? You mean the masholes will start magically wearing masks on November 4?
     
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    The patients being relocated from Arizona to New Mexico are evidence that the virus is not political. Seriously, even a bit of cursory research will debunk a "political hoax".
     
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    It is the reaction to the virus that is political. A virus can't be political. It can't even think.
     
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    No I mean the hysteria over the virus will subside.
     
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    The CDC and the National Institute of Allergies and Infectious Diseases are absolutely NOT agents of hysteria.

    You really can't pitch this as a conspiracy theory.

    What has happened in cities and their hospitals all across America is a serious tragedy.

    And, our actions as a nation are making it far worse than need be, as Europe and other populations have proven.
     
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    Of course not. The public, media and government succumbed to hysteria.

    Nor did I.

    As it is every year with seasonal flu.

    Without question. Forcing businesses to close was a very bad idea.
     
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    My husband just got word that he's working from home until at least January, and likely through April. We've had to re-arrange our house, because he's been working from home since March. We needed separate office spaces. (I've worked from home since 2003.)

    My company is the same. They've sent 50,000 workers home to work, and they don't want many of them to go back to the office at all.

    They aren't buying into anything but science. Nobody has suggested returning to normal on November 4.
     
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    What do you mean the hospitals are shut down?
     

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