Just thinking what I would do if I was a young black.

Many black people are afraid that any interaction with police will lead to being beaten or framed.

 

And such people are called "Fascists" or "Communists".

Only evil people with authoritarian tendencies support such police violence.

 

Not a shred of evidence to support that.

 

So you haven't been paying attention over the last 50 years. Sad.

 

"Reasonable suspicion" is a legal standard of proof in United States law and it is up to the discretion of each police officer.

I see that you are comparing the U.S. with two historical, political entities that no longer exist. It is good that you do so because the U.S. is becoming a Fascist state one step at a time. Germany (the former Nazi state) is far, far more Democratic than the U.S. and Russia (the former head of the Soviet Union) is not a Fascist state although the U.S. (particularly since Geo. Bush Jr.'s illegal invasion of Irak on a concoction of lies about WMD's plus the situation with Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, and Julien Assange) is getting closer and closer to becoming a full-blown Fascist nation. Note also that the subject is about the treatment of the black American population. Being black is probable cause.

 

Let's address some of the fallacies. The entire military assets of your average large city consist of an apc mounting a water cannon for dealing with rioters. Since three *******s with automatic weapons kept the entire LAPD occupied for a good chunk of a day, most police forces have an m16 in the trunk of each squad car for such emergencies. Then there is Swat which is an emergency response unit. The rest of the police force hadn't changed equipment wise save for more effective body armor and semi auto pistols largely replacing revolvers in the last fifty years.

 

They did. When they could. Otherwise they got on the boxcar and went off to die.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-resistance

 

That is true, but they have to catch you first and I am sure that the chances of escaping a beating or being shot increases on the wing. In any case, the OP example hasn't done anything wrong ..... other than being black ... so the choice is 1. making a run for it, or 2. risking harassment, intimidation, a beating, or a bullet. That choice is what this thread is all about.

 

Do you think the American people would be okay with cannons, M16s and SWAT teams and their military style gear as the "regular" police force in their neighborhoods? Of course, I'm not speaking about during times of violent protests/riots and other large civil unrest.

 

Except there is a third choice, be polite, don't suck up. And go on your merry way. The hypothetical upon which the scenario exists doesn't exist in real life.

 

And also historically we are excellent at shooting from concealed positions. Beware extremists on both sides!

 

Yes, that's what I was hinting at. I guess the difference is that the Jews of Europe couldn't believe what was about to happen until it did. American blacks, on the other hand, know perfectly well what can be expected if they "comply". Maybe that's why they either flee or fight back. Again, the OP is right on the money it seems - He'd run ... and many do.

 

Our Founding Fathers were the authorities.

 

No. that not a "third choice". That is choice number 2.

2. "risking harassment, intimidation, a beating, or a bullet."

 

And they aren't dude. The apc is seldom if ever deployed, more like to serve as a command vehicle in a hostage crisis than anything else. SWAT is an acronym for special weapons and tactics. They are the guys that show up to deal with mass shooters, major drug busts and hostage situations. They simply aren't involved in day to day policing.

 

So then it would be perfectly OK to break a few more to preserve it.

 

Yes, so slavery and other atrocities carried on unabated and preserved by law.

 

"I have a second photo ID if you want it."

 

Until we disobey the cop. He's the one answering to a judge if he's wrong.

 

Not only extremists. Even the flag-loving, Democracy-championing population who want their country to be a fine place to live for all of its citizens. They too are in the cross-hairs for demanding the government to uphold its' sworn duty to the state. "For" - "By" - and "Of".

 

Slavery by Democrats, yes. For other atrocities, does the number 55 million ring any bells about liberals?

 

I was discussing that style of policing in response to post #115.

 

"Divide and Rule" is the modus operandi of a two-party system. By shaming or worshipping one party or the other you have just done the dirty deed in the service of the fundamental problem. Blame yourself.

 

It is appaling that this philosophy is not standard law.

 

11 unarmed blacks were shot by the police last year, 2 of those unjustified, so how many total times were blacks stopped last year. Don't you think such a fear is a little unreasonable and that if you are not guilty of anything running from to avoid the police certainly gives reasonable suspicion you have been? What is your evidence there are thousands of stops of blacks everyday that are unreasonable?