Just thinking what I would do if I was a young black.

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Except that doesn't happen except on bad TV shows.
     
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    You don't believe the news or eyewitness reports either, apparently. Carry on, white man.
     
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    Prove blacks get pulled over for no reason. There is NO DATA to support that claim. Never was. Blacks get pulled over for speeding far more than whites. Maybe because they speed more often? Nah couldn’t be. All those black cops are racist and pull over Black people doing 80. But I guess it’s all fabricated. Magical systemic racism. The easy cop out excuse to blame all your failures on.

    I’ll use the extremely right wing NYT:)
    https://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/21/nyregion/study-suggests-racial-gap-in-speeding-in-new-jersey.html
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Do you carry a lightning rod every where you go in case if thunder storms? That's your likelyhood of a bad encounter with the cops if you don't act like a jerk.

    Stuff shows up on the TV because it is out of the ordinary not because it is commonplace.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Used to ride to work with a white pothead. He was scared to death of police. Constantly saying "Watch it, there's a pig"! Color makes no difference.
     
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    You live in lala land. Police face violence everyday from the lawless. So they are supposed to be Mr. Rogers?
     
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    Whatever else you do...

    Turn on the cell phone and start recording and live streaming if you can. Knowing there's a public record should calm most aggressive LEO.

    Beyond that be calm, cooperative, and insistent on your rights.
     
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    If you are calm and cooperative you generally don't have to worry about your rights and it isn't generally the cop's duty to assess them anyway.
     
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    If I were young and black I'd apply to be in insurance commercials. Not only did they make Jake from state farm black, they even went back to OLDER state farm commercials and inserted the new black Jake
     
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    It's been said that many Germans had no idea what was happening to the Jews during the NAZI regime. Even today there are Germans who think it was a hoax ... one of them (at least one) is a member of this forum. Make no mistake, police brutality is a daily occurrence all over the U.S. and it ain't only blacks who are the victims of it.
     
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    Police brutality happens to people who resist arrest and refuse to comply with lawful commands. That's why the cops seldom are convicted no matter the color of the jackasses skin. The perp started the fight. He lost. He should have known better. You spend enough of your life hunting trouble you'll eventually get more than you bargained for. That was the point if you are polite, your likelyhood of a bad experience with any cop or any person is greatly reduced. You enter the situation with a chip on your shoulder the size of a '52 Desoto and you not the cop have begun by escalating the situation and you've made everybody's day worse likely including yours.

    Always remember the cop didn't write the law, but he was hired to enforce it. It isn't his job to change it. That's why we have legislators and city councils.
     
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    I wonder how much of that perception has been spoon-fed you you by the promoters of racial hate, and how much you actually have any knowledge of. I'm nearly 80, have lived around black people all my life- good and bad- and it's been 60 years since I've seen what I would call a cop stopping black person without probable cause. Police here actually go our of their way when stopping a black driver to be sure they give them fair treatment and respect. They frequently don't get it back, but then- that's not the cops fault.
     
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    Yeah right carrying a chip on your shoulder the size of a battleship makes your life ever so much better, assuming you like getting your ass kicked...

    And not just by cops either...
     
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    Damned if you didn't nail that one dead center!
     
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    Learned a long time ago that if you expect the worst out of people you'll generally get it.
     
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    Secretary-General Kofi Annan didn't lead anything. He was from Ghana, basically a pseudo-politician philosopher that got credit for things he never was.
    The number of such experts without specific experience in what they criticize today has become so prolific that experience has become irrelevant, and so long as an opinion fits into a narrative it's viable expert evidence. How f-ing convenient for those who have no actual foundation to base things on. Other opinions stated that Kofi represented everything that was wrong about the United Nations. (Washington Examiner Newspaper)
     
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    I can't say your expectations make it happen, but I'd agree their attitudes do, and those are usually worn like some kind of medal.
    I give all people what I will call the courtesy of respect (benefit of the doubt without incurring risk) until they prove they are worth more- or less. Many come with the attitude out front, and they have no chance of being respected because of it. I never expect better from a person than who they demonstrate themselves to be. And unlike some, I don't believe in second chances for people who have demonstrated willing decisions to abuse others. But it is true- if you allow people to use or take advantage, you can bet they will and it will be up to you to limit it.

    Our problems today have vastly more to do with personal attitudes and lack of maturity and character than anything on our law books or distant history. We have given far too little attention to building character into our young people over the last 50 years, and we're paying for it . They are too- they just aren't smart enough to know it.
     
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    You keep saying that but reality disagrees with you.


    No, corruption is high on the list of "why". Do you not understand the purpose of this thread and what we are discussing? Read the OP if you are in doubt.
     
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    This is in reference to what exactly?
     
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    It's unfair to divide the "human race" into sub species and permanently label one of those sub species as victims!!
     
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    I know exactly what your discussing. A bullshit narrative created by people with an agenda who are themselves corrupt and corrosive in their approach to life in general and law enforcement. In more than a few cases such attitudes are why we have law enforcement in the first place. To accept your version would mean that essentially all jury pools and all juries are corrupt. I'm not buying it.
     
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    My, oh my.

    It is always a sign of a weak argument when people exaggerate or intentionally make an absurd reply.
     
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    Not a bit if exaggeration too it there are dozens of trials civil and criminal concerning police brutality every year all are jury trial and the cop is seldom convicted not because the system or the jury is corrupt but because the evidence makes it clear that the cop only did what the circumstance created by the criminal dictated.
     
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    Give up. You don't have any idea what you are talking about.
     

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