Made in God’s image. Yuk. Not me thanks.

I'm getting less and less inclined to discuss with someone's tin foil hat theories who can't admit the obvious.

From Wikipedia:

"The historicity of Jesus relates to whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. Virtually all scholars who have investigated the history of the Christian movement find that the historicity of Jesus is effectively certain,[1][2][3] and standard historical criteria have aided in reconstructing his life.[4] Scholars differ on the beliefs and teachings of Jesus as well as the accuracy of the details of his life that have been described in the gospels,[5][6][7][note 1] but virtually all scholars support the historicity of Jesus and reject the Christ myth theory that Jesus never existed."

 

So, the same Sadducees and Pharacees still exist in our day. Jesus answered the, "Did I not say you are gods?" He was referring to Psalms 82:6 in the 1st person. So, yes, Jesus said we are already gods. But, then he clarified this saying that we were essentially gods in embryo, child gods. Learning to become perfect even as our Father in Heaven is perfect. That was in Matthew if you don't know. Are you unable to answer yourself or do you have to just google something that you think is an answer but have no conviction in the answer?

 

Yes it does. But, there is a difference between a skeptic and a cynic. A cynic is stuck in their own predisposition beliefs and will not yield to facts or logic and reasoning. A skeptic needs to see for their own eyes as doubting Thomas needed. And even then, he wandered away from the truth.

 

Depends on your starting points. Sort of like the old universe versus new universe beliefs. Both take facts from observational science and attempt to prove their beliefs theories based on their personal beliefs. The difference is when you read the literature from both sides you quickly see old universe writers use fuzzy words in every paragraph like "may be" or "could be." Never "it is." Instead they would say "it is LIKELY." Same here with a belief in the One True God.

 

A near death experiencer was shown more about the dialogue between Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the Scribes and Pharisees on this topic.

http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html

 

So why doesn't god stop this?

 

So I'm not a christian, muslim or Jewish. But I've read most of the bible. I'm no atheist either, there is a god but She isn't what you think (neither is heaven, I've been there and hell too).

I think of the bible as poetry not the actual word of god. Yahweh created us within her image.

Also there really isn't an eternal hell filled with punishment. It's a desert were the inhabitants hate themselves. You can leave, you just have to realize you don't belong there.

But, if you're really bad you might be reincarnated as a swarm of flies doomed to die in any number of ways over and over again until penance is paid.

I know this is weird...

Also god is not the devil, humans are the devil.

Jesus existed and his death did forgive original sin but no others. He didn't rise from the dead, reveal himself to Mary Magdalene and his disiples then ascend to heaven.

He just died horribly.

 

Well, like it or not, that is human nature, but even worse, whether or not people want to recognise it.

 

Because it is part of the plan of salvation to test our promises and our choices, as well as to teach us about our own shortcomings and failures. It is to learn and grow. This is my opinion and belief.

 

I could believe that if all we had to deal with is our own mistakes.

 

My belief is such that when things don't make sense, I remind myself that God knows what he is doing.

 

You think he does.

 

No, I know he knows what he is doing. Just like I know that my Wife knows what she is doing when she is constructing a spread sheet for my transactions and balances, or making dinner.

 

You missed the statement about "pre-existence." That means that Father God and his wife had billions of children of spirit body material. We are those spirits currently inside our earthly bodies. Why were we sent here? It's part of our Father's Plan of Happiness, Salvation and potential Exaltation. In our former state, or 1st estate, we were unable to progress further to become "gods." Our Heavenly Parents are resurrected beings themselves. When they procreate their offspring are spirit children. That's us. We were given a choice in that state to either covenant to come to the Earth and by "faith" keep the covenants we made before coming to the earth. That is, to find out what Father's commandments are and make those covenants through a process called "Ordinance Work." In order to do this by faith, we have to have choices to choose good or evil. To stop this would mean that no more of God's children could progress to becoming gods and godesses. Or, we could have rejected Father's Plan and been cast out with the other 3rd of the spirit children of the Father with Lucifer (Satan). Satan's fallen angels are here to give us the choices of evil while Father has sent his goodly angels, His only Begotten in the Flesh, Jesus Christ, The Holy Ghost, Prophets and Apostles, Teachers... to give us the choices of good.

Do you want him to stop which will cause you permanent damnation so you cannot progress into the eternities? Didn't think so. At some point, when his children that are to be sent here have come, it will end. It's actually closer than most think. We are in the "Last or Latter Days." Thus, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

 

If we only dealt with our own mistakes, we would have nothing to choose good and evil from. Your logic makes no sense. God's logic and reasoning does. We live in the world but we have to choose if we will live of the world or not of the world. Choose good or evil when it's placed before us. We would not learn a thing about ourselves if we didn't have interaction with others and events. How we choose to interact teaches us and tests us as well.

 

Totally wrong.

 

What a dumb response. "Totally Wrong" dude haha...... What's totally wrong? Explain if you are going to reject. You can't learn a thing without interaction with others or other things. There has to be opposition in all things in order to learn. If you didn't have evil you wouldn't know what good is, nor evil. Please at least act like you have the ability to express your thoughts.

 

Let me rephrase, If we only dealt with our own mistakes, we would have nothing to choose good and evil from. This is flat out wrong.

 

Whoa, nicely laid out. Honor and glory to Heavenly Father.

 

Our mistakes are from interactions with worldly events in our lives. It's those worldly events and interactions we personally make mistakes whether sins or transgressions. We also make good choices as well during the interactions. Even if you were a mountain man all by yourself, you have choices to make during your interactions with nature. The isolation is a choice and may be one of good or evil.

 

That sounds like a feasible reality somewhere at some time.

 

https://reasonsforjesus.com/10-false-new-age-ideas-god/