Male-Female Work Attributes

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, apparently, and so what ... ?
     
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    I beg to differ with your "absolutely not" response.

    Since time immemorial men have been hunters and women have been gatherers. That has changed nowadays, but the traits that millions of years have instilled do not fast fade away.

    Women are typically less aggressive than men even when you put a gun in their hands. Why's that?

    Because men are just an input to creating life whilst women are directly responsible for production. There is therefore a mountain of difference as regards the insight women give to the value of life. (Of course, the impulse necessary to push a button that launches a missile that will kill people is far different than firing a gun directly at someone.)

    I wonder how many women are joining armies in order to "kill" the enemy. The act is contrary to a native sense that they all have with a high respect for life itself.

    Which is why far, far fewer of them are jailed for that crime. For instance, by a very large factor women are more the victims than the perpetrators of murder. From here: GLOBAL STUDY ON HOMICIDE -
    Need more be said ... ?
     
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    Be careful of saying "most people". You'd have to prove that point statistically to be absolutely correct.

    And as regards opinions - they fluctuate. In a two party system such as ours, there is no "middle-ground" party. That is, there is no party in the center because of our historic system of uniquely two majority opposing parties. (The UK does have a centrist-party, but for what it is worth, the vote is typically won by either the Labor or Conservative party.)

    So, in fact, what people apparently do in the center is "float between the two opposing parties" depending upon the politically "prevailing-winds" ...
     
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    I thought what obama said was pretty awful. Talk about divisive!!!
    Perhaps he thinks women would be better leaders because he views them as more socialist? More inclined to work to have peoples needs taken care of by powerful people in control? I dunno.

    Looking at generalities, women dont strive to put themselves in power. Imo, women who are in positions of power can be fine leaders as that is where they want to be...its their passion and priority.

    To say women are better leaders is stupid and offensive.
     
  5. LafayetteBis

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    You would not know a socialist if s/he bit your nose off.

    Socialism exists nowhere in the world, except perhaps North Korea. It means essentially that the government owns and runs all production of goods/services in a country.

    Obama is not a socialist*. But YOU are a capitalist. You work and earn money and invest it - in a house, on some market. I live in France, which is a Social Democracy - and, hey!, I do the same as you! I'm a capitalist too! I work to earn money and I invest it!

    But also, I pay considerable taxation which is employed in two key ways:
    *My kids went to university and it only cost them about $1K tuition a year!
    *I went to see the doctor the other day and it cost me $23 for the visit! Should I have any serious illness whatsoever, the French government will pay for all-of-it. Regardless of the cost!

    You can't do that in the US. Which is why (1) Europe graduates more kids from postsecondary education than the US and (2) my life-span in Europe is four years longer than yours in the US!

    Eat your heart out ...

    *He is a Social Democrat. It's definition:
     
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    I do not know if it is 70% or 90%, but most people do accept some of more popular prejudices. In the previous centuries it was anti-Semitism and Racism. In 2020 it is viewing men as morally inferior.

    Of course men commit much more crime -- 87% of killers are men, but over 98% of men are not killers. Yet women commit most verbal abuse, and relational aggression, and most Intimate Partner Violence.

    Most women would be hostile to anyone who defends male victims of abuse and discrimination.

    Once again, we must be truly grateful to extraordinary women who defend male victims. These women also suffer enormous abuse by the mob for their opinions.
     
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    Still waiting for women to show me how work in the sewer is done. I'm muddling through best I can! Help, women!
     
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    Gutteral opinion ... !
     
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    Gutters are open-air. Thats how you get cholera n junk. What kinda medieval sanitation you practicing over there, anyway...? ;)
     
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    I am originally from Russia. Russia was ruled by Empresses Catherine I, Anna, Elizaveta, Catherine II during years 1725-1796. They were great rulers. But the suffering of the serfs was severe. Anyone who is familiar with suffering of male victims of DV in modern Western World will understand that women can abuse power as well.
     
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    No they can't. Women are incapable of corruption or violence unless men drive them to it.

    ;)
     
  12. LafayetteBis

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    Gutters run into sewers - over here, over there, everywhere ...
     
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    Thats very wasteful. A lot of my job is finding where gutters (stormwater) runs into sewers so they can be isolated. Combined systems cause stormwater to be processed at the sewer treatment plant, which makes it more expensive, as well as heavy rains can then overwhelm the sewers and flood raw sewage into the environment.

    Very poor design.

    Just fyi.
     
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    Why can't you tell me?

    Just trying to determine your beliefs on the matter. In your mind, when Bruce Jenner transitioned to being female, did he suddenly gain all the womanly characteristics you mentioned, or did he not?
     
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    Just trying to find some common ground. Some people would say all those "characteristics of women" mentioned in this thread are nothing more than social constructs, and not genetic. If you believe it is genetic, I guess that Bruce Jenner isn't actually a woman?
     
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    Omitted - double post
     
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    Some are true. Few men and even seven times fewer women commit murder. But true empathy is shown by exceptional women -- they support male victims of abuse and discrimination in USA 2020. Most women are offended by the mention of this discrimination. Most men keep quiet even online, where they risk nothing.

    Most people are not evil. But truly humane people are a rare exception.
     
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    Obama expressed desire to have our government control the healthcare industry. That socialistic.

    And frankly I dont want free for everyone higher education. That recipe is designed to turn out socialist leaning protesters, not educated citizens.
     
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    Here is my suggestion to achieve "equality":

    For the past few decades different groups have been complaining about how humanity has evolved. For them, evolution has short changed them because they do not like their station in life.

    Ok then.

    My idea is for a team of female engineers, female scientists, female mechanics, etc....design, build and execute a program to travel to and colonize Mars.

    We know that travelling to Mars is a goal so why not an all women team to do it?

    It was virtually an all male team that have achieved great feats throughout history. Hence, one reason men are respected.

    When Columbus set sail did he do it by bellyaching at how unfair the ocean can be? Did men conquer space travel by whining about how difficult and unfair it could be? No....they just did it and earned respect.

    I am not suggesting this because I think an all women team would fail. I am suggesting this because I believe it can be done.

    So ladies, stop bellyaching and show us how you are capable and competent. Why set your sights on things men have already achieved? Doing this makes you look petty and weak. Step up and show us your greatness!
     
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    You are talking about Absolute Power, which does not exist in any real democracy.

    So, no, in today's political-systems of Western Democracies the abuse of power is legally prohibited. One can be thrown out of office or a new leadership voted. Unless of course you are a Replicant Party in the US and have "stacked" the Supreme Court - as Donald Dork has done.

    Which is just one of the many political manipulative fault-lines (along with Gerrymandering and the unfair Electoral College) that a country can employ to pollute* a democracy.

    A true-democracy has no manipulation whatsoever of the popular-vote ...
     
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    So what if it is "socialistic"? Social Democracies provided need services to society. Yes, that is socialism (without the dire fact that socialist-governments provide all the Supply that is Demanded by constituents of a socialist-country. Which, I hasten to add - NO LONGER EXISTS! (Except in North Korea!)

    We have in the US a partially privatised health-care system that costs an "arm-and-a-leg". Pun intended! See here:
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    A NHS (National Healthcare System) would cost far less and have a positive impact upon both lifespan and way-of-life. (For instance, it could be employed to force people to quit smoking and have all related taxation of means - cigars, cigarettes - spent upon Healthcare consequences.)

    Call it what you like - socialistic or socially democratic. I am not as fooled by words as you are.

    National Healthcare systems SAVES LIVES EVERYDAY

     
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    Why does that matter?

    In a truly free country, s/he should be able to do whatever they want ...
     
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    Bollocks!

    We should get our political-structure right in our own home-country before we start peddling it on another planet!

    And that will be more than just an idle challenge. Much more given present mindsets as shown on this forum ... !
     
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    The hypocrisy is what matters.

    On one hand, some "woke" people are saying that genetics is what determines the mentioned traits of women which makes them better leaders than men. But then, these same "woke" people say that a man can be a woman if he wants. Do you see the conundrum?
     
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    LOL! So you think government is the solution to everything? Oh how 16th century of you.
     

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