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  1. God & Country

    God & Country Well-Known Member

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    A police precinct has been torched by rioters forcing it to be abandoned. Police personnel were attacked while escaping the fire. Is this a situation that requires the use of deadly force by law enforcement?
     
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    IMO they should have just opened fire on them. People that run around destroying things are not people that deserve to take up space. Want a real solution? Cuff the cop, lay him down and have someone kneel on his neck for the same exact amount of time they did to that guy. Televise it. If he live he lives, if he dies he dies.
     
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    The reason I put this out there is that the police is a para military entity and so the precinct is a military like installation. If a military installation was attacked the response would immediately be use of deadly force. My sentiments are that while not all is known yet but it does appear that at least one of those officers acted in a way that resulted in an unnecessary death. That said, the public response to this unfortunate event is out of control and terroristic in nature. No amount of rhetoric is going to make this go away and the potential for innocent deaths is very real so how do you get things back under control. The answer is nothing anyone likes but it has to be overwhelming force. I think that the mayor should appeal to the governor to declare martial law in Minneapolis and back it up with the national guard. After that anyone who doesn't comply should suffer the consequences. Your eye for an eye solution wouldn't work because these are people who are being stoked by outside agitators. Just wait a bit, it won't be long before the loons start spinning this as Trump's fault. There was a lot more stupidity involved here than racism but the prevailing theme will be racism. I'm in favor of rounding up the agitators and kneeling on their necks.
     
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    Absolutely. Counterattack and kill.
     
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    Police are not paramilitary units, and they are not like the military. I have been to countries were the police was actually a branch of the military, and use violence against protestors. There is not resemblance anything that we have in this country. This is not the 1960's where they used water cannons, tear gas, and even bullets to quell protests. Now they use non-lethal force to deal with the protestors.

    Further, one police officer's criminal action does not define the entire police force. Nor, does this one officer's criminal action does not justify the type of violence that we are seeing in this country.

    Think about this. The rioters in Minneapolis are attacking businesses within their own communities. Most of the businesses will move to other areas of the city. Then these same people will call the decisions to move as being racist. They will not make the correlation with the businesses decisions and their own lawless actions. If the leaders of the African-American communities promoted lawful behavior, and chastised those that commit crimes. Then maybe there would be less crime. If they stopped protests short of riots and attacking businesses, then maybe businesses will not decide to move out.

    Look, I do not condone the actions of the officer. George Floyd should not be dead right now. But a good rule is not fighting against the officers attempting to arrest you. Floyd was being arrested for passing a fake $20 bill. This is a charge that is easy to beat. All you have to prove is that you did not know it was fake, and where you got it from. Whether it was given to him as change, or did someone that gave it to him. Maybe he got it from an ATM. All he has to do is show where he got it from, and the charges would be dropped. There was no real reason for Floyd to resist arrest. The fact that he did resist was the actual trigger that caused his death.

    You might notice that liberals are complaining that the officer is being charged with Third Degree Murder, and not First Degree Murder. They apparently did not learn the lesson from the Zimmerman prosecution. If Zimmerman had been charged with Manslaughter under Florida law, then he would be in jail now. But the prosecution went for a charge that could not be sustained. They even tried to do a last minute change to include the lesser included charge of Manslaughter. They had rejected to add the lesser included charge when they indicted Zimmerman. It was First Degree Murder or nothing. The Judge in the case would not allow them to add the charge after the prosecution had already completed their case. By attempting to add the additional choice of charges, they were telling the jury that the evidence did not support a charge of murder. As such, the jury found Zimmerman not guilty. Now, these same liberals want the Prosecution to overreach in charging the officer that killed Floyd. Strange how they never learn.
     
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    Apparently you know more about this than I do but these days law enforcement is often seen decked out in all sorts of tactical gear and a lot of what they do is done in areas that more like a war zone than the average neighborhood.
    The leaders of these communities do what the can but most inner city areas now are like the wild west. They are up against a culture that is promoted by the music industry and Hollywood. It is a culture comprised of low functioning individuals who are easily influenced, and have been persuaded that the white man is evil and the source of all their problems. It's a vicious cycle, born into poverty, herded onto the plantation of dependence of "entitlements" screwed by the education system and the few that make it out and prosper never really leave the hood. It is intergenerational and institutionalized and sadly racist. This BTW is based on what I've been told by black friends who are deeply saddened by the state of affairs in the black community. One friend intimated that down deep he still harbors some mistrust of whites and has had to work on that.
    Real justice is slow and what these people want is akin to an emotionally fueled lynching.
     
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    This is a civil war. One side throws Molotov cocktails. The other side hides.

    It's pathetic.
     
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