New Evidence in George Floyd's Death?

But this is about the assault on black lives. NO it isn't, this is about BLM only being concerned about assaults on certain black lives, those that they can USE to push their particular political bent. IF BLM truly meant Black Live Matter then great, see you in Chicago or anywhere else black on black crime is out of sight, but right now it's BLMS S is for sometimes and just another in a line of shakedown groups.

 

Cops need to be double and triple sure that detainees are not overdosed on something or have some condition that might put them in unnecessary stress or even kill them, like putting them in a police car, or ... choking them.

They already know they are not supposed to use choke holds. If cops that are already in service are incapable of learning this, the only option would be to disband the police, and create some other type of civilian public safety department in which people who form part of it start their training from scratch and they learn this right from the offset.

 

If law enforcement were to truly be disbanded, ultimately what would serve to discourage private citizens from using deadly force as a first response at the first instance of perceiving a threat, even if one does not exist? There will be no one around to enforce the laws against murder, so there will be no deterring effect. If law enforcement is disbanded, the current rioters and arsonists may find themselves being shot by potential victims, or plowed into with motor vehicles on a regular basis.

 

If a single word of what you are saying had any substantiation, you would have substantiated it. You haven't.

Only reason I can think for that is that you are still changing the subject, Obviously you are just repeating wingnut media talking points. Because wingnut media never substantiates their wild fabricated claims.

If you want to have a serious discussion, you need to show some references that would support this "conspiracy theory" that you are now promoting.

 

Law enforcement is not "truly" disbanded. It just needs to be replaced where necessary. And only the corruption and inadequacies at that. The level of replacement that is necessary depends on the level of corruption and inadequacies. Only a completely inadequate police department that forgot that their job is to "serve and protect" needs to be disbanded and replaced in its entirety. Or one in which racism runs so deep in its culture, that it would be impossible to remedy with just re-training.

The rest of you post is a consequence of the above misconception.

 

The FULL text of what I posted... But this is about the assault on black lives. NO it isn't, this is about BLM only being concerned about assaults on certain black lives, those that they can USE to push their particular political bent. IF BLM truly meant Black Live Matter then great, see you in Chicago or anywhere else black on black crime is out of sight, but right now it's BLMS S is for sometimes and just another in a line of shakedown groups.

 

The cops were wrong and I believe 2 or 3 of the 4 were rookies.
Like almost their first patrol.
But it was wrong to withhold a competing video which explains
the Cops POV.The Guy was refusing to get in the cop car.
That is what I wondered when first debating this.
That the guy must have resisted getting into the cop car.
He had been arrested 9 times and went to jail/prison 5 of those
times.Once for armed robbery and was sentenced to 5 years.
Yet BLM found cause to make a martyr and hero of the guy.

 

BLM Proved without a shadow of a doubt what Frauds they be.
Not one bit of interest in the Kids { Black children } who were murdered
in the last few weeks.Plus the group is funded.I believe since and for
the Ferguson effect.

 

You can repeat the same text again and again until your fingers turn blue. If you don't substantiate it with actual arguments, links, quotes, references,,, it remains worthless.

 

maybe he did but the guy trying to arrest him had been done over 15 times for police brutality and has also been charged for stealing thousands of dollars off the general public yet the sheeple finds this guy a martyr even though he forced his knee on a pleading mans neck for 8 minutes and 4 minutes while he was dead.

 

No no ... NO Bub.That IS the Rap sheet of this Guy/Hero named
George Floyd.There is NO Maybe about it.
Stop acting/talking/thinking like some robot.That is PRECISELY why
BLM was formed.To make robots out of sane/ordinary Americans.

 

ONCE AGAIN The FULL text of what I posted... But this is about the assault on black lives. NO it isn't, this is about BLM only being concerned about assaults on certain black lives, those that they can USE to push their particular political bent. IF BLM truly meant Black Live Matter then great, see you in Chicago or anywhere else black on black crime is out of sight, but right now it's BLMS S is for sometimes and just another in a line of shakedown groups.

This is AN opinion site is it not? AND my opinion is that BLM is a shakedown group using the name Black Lives Matter only to deceive the gullible and white guilt hairshirt wearers when in truth ONLY certain black lives matter depending on circumstances.

 

It's BLMSometimes.

 

Well I said that the media "largely ignored" it, and I must confess to hearing that from commentators rather than getting that impression myself.

Do you even watch Fox? I don't - I'm not even in the country!

You're just so ridiculously outrageous, but I think that it's your intention to just appear like that, even while not believing the crap that you come out with half the time! I thought that maybe, just maybe, you would have said that he was probably expecting to die because of the drugs he was on, causing an insane level of paranoia. You can't actually believe that people should be scared of being killed by a cop in any interaction with them! I highly doubt that you will be able to produce a stat which says that anywhere CLOSE to the majority of police interactions end up with the cop killing someone!

What the hell are you talking about? I DO believe what I see! I see Floyd CLEARLY not cooperating at times during the interaction with the cops! It seems that YOU are not believing what you see! Also, none of what I'm saying is to suggest that the officer is innocent.

Well of course you do - I mean how could you NOT! The problem is, I asked, "do you support BLM?" I think that you know perfectly well that I was referring to the organisation.
Although, given how much semantic overload there is in the phrase 'black lives matter', perhaps you genuinely thought that I was asking if you believe that black lives matter. Here I was thinking that using the initials "BLM" would have avoided any confusion!

 

Something to do with counterfeit cash which he tried to use in a store.

 

No no ... NO Bub.That IS the Rap sheet of the terrorist
chauvin.There is NO Maybe about it.
Stop acting/talking/thinking like some robot.That is PRECISELY why
usa was formed.To make robots out of sane/ordinary Americans.

 

so they shoved a gun in his face for using a fake bill? omg.

 

You mean when Floyd was still behind the wheel of his car?

 

Such a mass delusion. Who cares how criminals are treated when they are resisting arrest? The key: don't be a criminal.

 

It would negate murder 2 and what it should've always been: Manslaughter.

 

At no point in the video, the true video, was a firearm ever "shoved" into the fact of George Floyd.

 

Well presumably you are against police brutality.

 

What should he be charged with then?

 

yes.

 

at this point any jail sentence will do tbh since there is very little trust in the judicial system which determines if you are guilty or not depending on how much money you have.