Good morning, My name is Holubice, a middle aged man form Italy. Please excuse me for my next mistakes, here and forward, as English is not my mother tongue. The real reason I am here is this: I have never been a religious man, since I was about 10-11 years old, I have never been interested on Church, priests, Gospel, and whatever. I just didn't care at all, till I was 30 years old, as I had a N.D.E.... ... to understand what I mean. This even has completely transformed my live, upside-down, since that day changed completely my goals, my points of views and my beliefs. Just afterward my 'trip', I read again the Gospel and, in just one night, I got an impressive controls of Holy Bible. I have spent about 15 years to try to convert your colleagues (the Italians Atheist Forum) with (honestly) poor results. I'm also sure that the present Pandemia have to be named into Plague, because: This virus does not kill innocent babies This virus does not kill the poor Black Men in the poorest countries of Africa This virus does not kill the poor immigrants living in the richest West countries This virus is killing those countries that have been egoist and ruthless towards refugees Canada and United States have the same social and economical strength: why they have so few deaths in Canada, why it is a hecatomb in USA? Germany and France have the same social and economical strength: why they have so few deaths in Germany, why it is a hecatomb in France? Sweden and Switzerland have the same social and economical strength: why they have so few deaths in Sweden, why it is a hecatomb in Switzerland? I know those explanations may disappoint some of you, but that it is. I'm typing in this forum as I am sure what kind of vaccine REALLY will stop the carnage in USA (and elsewhere).
So what you're saying is Covid19 is a plague sent by your god to punish certain countries for 'being mean' to refugees? What evidence do you have that those demographics you have stated there are not affected by the virus? Did you make this observation by what you heard on the news? If a tree falls in the middle of the forest but nobody saw, it still fell.
Go to this Wikipedia English list: 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic by country and territory ... go 2/3 pages down, till the title "Pandemic by country and territory", in the list in the right, order the list clicking on the column "Deaths", then evaluate the number of deaths of... Mexico (116 million inhabitants) United States (330 million inhabitants) ... and many others poor country, with a large population. Compare their deaths with deaths in West Opulent Countries. Is there somebody keen in statistic out there? Is there anyone able to draw a chart with: x= Revenue pro capita (in dollars) y= Number Covid-19 deaths pro capita ... where you dot the chart with all the countries in this Planet? Thank you very much indeed.
Many of those countries aren't too keen on foreigners and outsiders visiting their countries, and adopt strict rules and policies if one desires to although I cannot for the life of me imagine why somebody would want to go on a holiday to a country like Sudan.
I think nobody here is upset as he can not visit Sudan in his next holidays (if any...) You, Americans, you must have clear in your mind this, when talking of illegal immigration... ... technically, all of you are illegal immigrates, rather you are bloodthirsty invaders. Those sentences you, and your mates, you are saying, they can be said just on the mouth of... Sitting Bull Red Cloud Crazy Horse ... and their descendant, they are the only legitimate owners of the land where you are living ...
1. I'm not American. 2. It seems you are punishing people for the sins of the past. The Americans of today are not responsible for what happened to the native Indians. Therefore, your "god" is not fair nor just if your logic is sound.
I repeat again, if descendant of... Sitting Bull Red Cloud Crazy Horse ... tomorrow will ask to 330 millions of European and Asian illegal immigrants in their land, all those people have to board again in a ship bound back to Le Havre, Hamburg, Lisbon, Saint Pitersburg, Rotterdam, Liverpool and Napoli. Because, I repeat it again, the Indian Red Skins are the only legitimate owner of the Land. Therefore, neither Trump, nor any other American living outside an Indian Reserve, may say to Central American carovan of refugees: 'NO WAY...!!!' This is logical for my God, and also for any human Judge.
