Pelosi Won’t Rule Out Impeachment to Block Trump SCOTUS Pick

Those two things have no relationship to each other.

I was responding to someone who said politics is a blood sport. That anything goes. I was testing that.

Personally I prefer the institutionalise approach. That all votes in the Senate require 60 votes. Unfortunately the Republicans broke that when Obama was in office by blocking and delaying confirmation of appointments. Not just judges but everyone. And not because the people were not competent for the positions, but because the Republicans just wanted to be obstructive generally. That’s the moment the system really started breaking down. Thanks to senate republicans.

 

How can she the SOTH block a Trump pick?

 

Are you denying that is where the Democrats have taken the country?

 

It’s Republicans who started down the path of being obstructive in Congress.

 

Don’t know. I doubt she can. But again, I was responding to someone who basically said that anything goes. So if she were able to do something, he would have to accept it was a legitimate use of power.

 

You would have to be more clear as to what that would be in order to judge whether it would be legitimate or not you're blowing smoke until you do.

And as I said in the other thread this is really beyond the politics we HAVE to HAVE that ninth justice in place BEFORE the election takes place and all the lower court liberal judges start issuing rulings changing the rules and all the lawsuits start getting emergency fast tracked to the SCOTUS. We will HAVE to have those decisions made and can't wait until after January 20th.

 

Ahhh no that was the Democrats during Bush43 with the filibuster of judicial nominees. So again I ask are you denying that is where the Democrats have taken the country?

 

Strictly speaking, there is no need for 9. If a vote is tied 4-4, the lower court ruling will stand.

 

Haha, god huh? Is the left finding religion now that they are losing everything?

This is karma kicking in for all the underhanded BS the left has tried in the last few years to get trumped kicked out of office. Karma's a bitch, isn't she? Enjoy.

 

Okay guys, here is what this is about. Some of those ballots are literally hitting the mailboxes of voters all over the country in the next few weeks and some of them will be filled out in the next few weeks. Others will sit around the kitchen table while ads are devised and time is sold. In House dark blue districts, House members HAVE to come up with a bellicose response to this because their voters will demand that they do something now. In House races, it will be to a fundraising benefit to come up with a way to monetize this issue now in upcoming ads into House campaign coffers. For both reasons, Pelosi's caucus will need to come up with some sort of leverage that appears remotely viable. Realistic leverage is looking pretty scarce. They are going to have to get creative to come up with something that will get the Senate's attention, and still not tick off more voters than doing nothing. Nobody has fleshed out that plan.

Pelosi is simply leaving all ideas on the table, refusing to exclude any legal option, no matter how silly because her caucus wants her to. Impeachment will not stop squat. She knows it. It does not stall squat. She knows it. Her membership knows it too. That does not mean some of those members might need to sell this to their more naïve and passionate constitutuents, at least for awhile until they find something better.

 

That's not what we need we need a FULL SCOTUS to decide these CRITICAL issues that will be brought up and not have the country at the mercy of these rouge lower court judges.

 

Did anyone ever explain how George Stephanopoulos / Nancy Pelosi thought impeachment would "block" the nominee?

 

You only say that because it serves your interests.

My point is a legal one: the cases will be decided, one way or another, under existing rules. There WILL be a final and binding determination, even if there are only 8.

 

They think an impeachment will tie up the senate.
They haven't yet figured out the senate can delay an impeachment trial, or even dismiss it altogether.

 

We are taking notes people, lets summarize shall we:

Reid takes the nuclear option to appoint judges, OH NO, Republicans say thank you Harry and do the same, but somehow that is wrong but when dems do it, its okay, hmmm.
Now impeachment is tossed around as a way to punish the president when you are butt hurt. Okay, we will keep that in our back pocket for future use, thank you democrats.
Oh yeah, lastly, I think we should embrace the democrats idea of packing the court since they seem to feel it is okay to do that so when Trump wins again he should honor the democrats wishes and add about 19 conservative judges to the Supreme Court, it is the dem party idea isn't it?

Hypocrisy of the left is unlimited.

 

It's the interest of the country and our federal republic something in which the Democrats have no interest. The last thing we need are lower courts being the ultimate arbiter, the President and Senate can do their jobs and insure a FULL SCOTUS to determine these vital issues. Sandra Day O'Conner was confirmed in 31 days. Let's do it.

 

Sorry this was not the view the Dems took in 2016: https://www.republicanleader.senate.gov/newsroom/research/democrats-were-clear-we-need-nine

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): ‘Every Day That Goes By Without A Ninth Justice Is Another Day The American People’s Business Is Not Getting Done’
SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D-CA), Judiciary Committee Ranking Member: ‘The Court Needs Nine Justices To Function Properly


There are far more pressing cases on the docket right now....Obamacare being one of them...the other obviously the election...the Dems have vowed not to concede under any circumstanes and already have one of the largest teams of lawyers on retainer in history of an election.

 

Just gloss right on by the "nuclear option" right?

 

I guess you are just going to ignore the Dems doing that to Bush...literally an organized effort planned once he took office to filibuster all his judicial picks?

There was a threat to go Nuclear, of course the Dems said that would ruin the Senate...so the GOP didn''t go Nuclear...in fact they simply compromised with the Dems....

Fast forward to the roles reserved and the Dems go nuclear...sorry the dems put this in motion...you must live with what you all created.

 

Schumer: 'Well, Di this is certainly another fine mess'.

 

Shhhh!

 

It wasn’t a problem for Republicans to go a year with only 8. But it’s important now? It’s a power play, pure and simple. Republicans are only concerned with power.
Yes, we all know Republicans want to remove health care from millions of Americans and do it is important to get a court that will do that.

 

With cheat by mail coming we need 9 justices.

 

Nuclear option was a response to Republicans obstructing confirmations. Just to be obstructive to Obama.

 

Thread win.