People Are Upset Tim Tebow Is Back In The NFL Instead Of Colin Kaepernick

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  1. Tipper101

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    One belief isn’t hurting anyone and the other is. Damn right I’m biased.
     
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    Technically, this is inaccurate. 2/3 of the Bible was written prior to Jesus. Paul's letters and books were written about 30 years after Jesus died. So not "generations".
    Nevertheless, that has nothing to do one way or the other about whether God exists.

    98% or more of the Bible is translated the same way it was originally written. We can tell this by comparing the tens of thousands of ancient manuscripts we have.

    Which parts?

    I'll take Aquinas' arguments for God over any atheist arguments against God. But feel free to give it a go.
     
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    your beliefs aren’t backed by science. Colins beliefs aren’t backed by science. Tebows beliefs aren’t backed by science.

    what the hell is ironic about any of that?
     
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    Even the well educated pioneers of quantum physics, who were old enough to have been educated well in philosophy, too, noted that the quantum physics notion of potentiality closely resembled Aristotle's notion of potentiality.
     
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    Where did the creator come from then?

    You are left with the same issue. Either time and space have always existed or a creator has always existed and created time and space.

    Again, there is zero evidence for that of a creator. Not saying there isn’t one — or many — or even that our primitive brains could even begin to comprehend what it actually is.
     
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    As a Christian apologist once said....the big bang demands a big banger
     
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    There is evidence of police brutality, there is evidence that it skews towards blacks. It isn’t as big of an issue as many make it and is decreasing but it is still a legitimate issue.
     
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    You just took years of: there is no debate, there is no counter argument, the entire police force is racist, the entire country is racist, black people are being killed left and right by police, they can’t leave their homes without thinking they might die and are justified in rioting and burning and assaulting cops and killing them...

    and you turned it into the biggest understatement of the year. Congratulations.
     
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    People are being killed in their homes. They are being killed while being unarmed, while posing no threat to heavily armed officers.

    No, the police are not all racist — are there too many? Absolutely.

    Black people fear police because they can be executed and, until recently, very little was done about it. Things are changing.

    That does not make their cause any less worthy.
     
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    Their collective brainwashing at the behest of the Democratic Party and their black religious leaders to turn them into nothing more than an enslaved democrat-voting plantation does not a worthy cause make.

    there’s a reason you don’t cite any stats. They don’t back up your argument of systemic police brutality. The lefts lies have been debunked countless times on this.
     
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    That’s just false

    https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793
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    Nope, relevant data is imperative to your argument.

    the stat necessary to showing systemic racism is: unjustified killing of black people out of proportion to their relative crime rate with respect to other races.

    Your stat doesn’t show that. At all. only that overall killing of black people is higher, completely irrespective of whether it is justified or not.
     
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    Kap atleast has had many successful reps. Tebow never had NFL talent. He has a heart of gold and lots of courage but he just doesnt have the DNA. And at Tight End? He will get steamrolled.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    The only successful reps Kap had was his knee-taking play. He mastered that.
     
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    That does not change the fact that there are young black men dying as a result of Kaepernick's actions.
     
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    His release of the football was too slow and awkward. That was the only part of the DNA he was missing. He just might make a very good TE. He has the size for it.
     
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    When black people see people that look like them being executed in the middle of the street by two white men and the police don’t even arrest them or see officers storm into an innocent persons home and shoot them with no repercussion that causes fear. It is irrelevant that you want to dismiss data because black males commit a disproportionate amount of some types of crimes. What they see happening will always be more powerful than anything you want to ignore.
     
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    Why not filter it vs all crime including property and financial crimes? Looks like all crime would cause a police interaction...
     
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    Because violent crimes are far and away the most likely to involve guns, they carry the largest prison sentences, and thus give the most reason to refuse to be taken alive or at least take great risks in order to escape being captured. You dont typically have that type of problem with your garden variety shoplifter or graffiti artist.

    To pretend like all police interactions are created equal.....is just silly. Deep down, you know that too.
     
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    Knock yourself out. Most police shootings that result in a death are a result of violent crimes, but hell, be our guest.
     
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    you lack the data so you jump to the anecdote.

    Black people are well represented throughout the police force, from the janitors all the way to the police chiefs, superintendents, mayors, DAs and governors. They’re everywhere. Never mind all the body cameras on each officer.

    You guys are so lacking in relevant data that your arguments are

    1) anecdotes
    2) myopic unconscious racism that every cop is guilty of because it’s not present in the policies or specific actions of cops. What ridiculous crap
     
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    Only racists appear concerned with Tebow's return to the NFL.
     
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    That still doesn’t address the recent events. Do you think two black men could have shot an unarmed white man in the middle of the street and not been immediately arrested? Or worse...
     

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