Race and Crime

You did not put up any sources to a reply towards me.

 

I already responded to this, and where you are wrong. I stated that in my replies of 449 and 453, and you're just ignoring that and repeating the same fake nonsense.

 

I got 5 sources of high quality saying racism is wide spread in the US justice department.
That is me proving systemic racism.

That's how it happens with traffic stops and dealing and selling drugs. We've been through this

 

I provided sources of proof as opposed sources of subjective opinion . In simple terms I gave you real life examples , observation evidence .

When every who works for the government is visual white and all movies stars and singers are visual white then you'd have a genuine case for racism bias . However this isn't going to happen and explained previously , racism isn't about color .

 

You said this before. But you never posted 1 source to me.

 

I posted you 100's if not 1000's of sources of proof when I provided real life examples such as Barrack Obama and celebrities .

These sources of proof are axioms , they exist and are objective proof that racial bias isn't about color .

We think this and we think that is opinionated hogwash , sources of proof of real life examples are in no way subjective .

Stereotyping as a consequence of actions and in-actions isn't about visual appearance .

In example religion , often Muslims are stereotyped because of actions by some Muslims .

As I said racism is a deep subject with many variables and interestingly some of the Muslim people from countries such as Pakistan , visually look almost ''white'' .

 

And I debunked it. Do also note. Barak was only voted in by about 1/3 of the US population.
Also: my sources stand.

 

You didn't debunk anything I've posted , you've just denied axioms .

You do know that axioms are self evidently true ?

The fact that Barrack Obama was president and the fact that celebrities etc are mixed looking in appearance proves without a shadow of doubt that there is no underlying racial conspiracy in the US system .


The recent violence and racial tension demonstrates to us that people are not well educated enough to understand racism and the equality that already exists .

A person who visual looks ''brown'' has the same chance as a person who visual looks ''white'' to succeed in the US .

I am not 100% sure but I bet persons who visual look ''brown'' who succeed in the music industry , outsell visual looking ''white'' people .

Again another source of proof that makes your sources frivolous .

 

Your sources don't even conclude that there is 'wide spread" racism in the US justice department! You can't even quote them! They just say that there is SOME racism!

What does "traffic stops and dealing and selling drugs" have to do with burglaries and other crimes committed by white people being harder to solve?

What does "traffic stops and dealing and selling drugs" have to do with the burglaries and other non-drug related crimes which ARE solved, being overwhelmingly committed by blacks?

And the answer is: NOTHING!

And the rape, robbery and property crime that IS solved, is overwhelmingly committed by blacks.

How high do you think it has to be? 100%?

 

Those posts do not explain why you think the US Department of Justice is wrong! I just LOVE how you call the US Department of Justice's data "FAKE nonsense!"

 

The fact that Obama got voted in by just 30% of the population debunks your previous claim. You're not responding to this.
As for your celebrities: there are sometimes no black celebrities nominated for the oscars. It can happen 2 years in a row debunks your claim.

My sources stand.

 

APA say it's at "many levels" of law enforcement in the US, and say that there is a "systemic problem".
My sources stand.

The traffic stops and the drugs show that white people are more criminal, but black people simply get arrested more BY A LOT.
And so you can't prove a thing with violent crime, where black people get arrested a lot more too.
We've gone through this before.

 

The traffic stops and the drugs show that white people are more criminal, but black people simply get arrested more BY A LOT.
And so you can't prove a thing with violent crime, where black people get arrested a lot more too.
We've gone through this before.

 

Yes of course you are correct , I like you stance on this !

Great , lets have an all out race war and when us normal people have had enough of the cities getting trashed , we can drop a nuke on them .


Normal people don't even consider skin color , people who are visual ''brown'' (not black) are more racist to themselves than any visual ''white'' looking person . Do you see visual ''white'' people running around screaming we are ''white''.

Perhaps we should bring back the KKK ! OH yeah that's right , us visual ''white'' people stopped them didn't we !

Stop pleading for pity , stop being gang banger's and criminals , cleanup the trash , get jobs , create jobs , be proud visual ''brown'' persons of America are not living in Africa .

 

So sorry that I am correct because it's founded on 5 different high quality sources.

 

Quite clearly sarcasm is something else you do not understand . I should write a paper on the inability to coherently think and I still think you'd fail in understanding .

 

when personal jabs is all you got.... my sources stand.

 

Your sources don't stand at all , that is in your own head .

Consider sports , people who are visually ''brown'' are loved sports men and women etc .

You obviously are not thinking straight because you believe these associations you call sources could in no way be incorrect .

I've given you lots of examples now but you seem to think there is a problem that doesn't exist .

If you want to observe real inequality , just look at Africa .

If you want to make a real difference , build an army , go to Africa and free the starving people from tyrants .

Lets face it the gangs of the USA are already armed and good to go .

If people who look ''brown'' lives matter , then why aren't visual ''brown'' people of the USA protesting to free Africa ?

Are you being racist towards Africans ?

You can't be can you ?

 

Yes, BECAUSE they commit the most violent crime! So OF COURSE they get arrested alot more!

 

Okay, so nothing about it being "wide spread."

So to summarise:

You haven't explained why would burglaries and other crimes committed by white people are harder to solve.
You haven't explained why it is that the burglaries and other non-drug related crimes which ARE solved,
are overwhelmingly committed by blacks. Also, 62% of murders are solved. This is obviously high enough
to conclude that black people commit the most murder based on WAY more black people being arrested for murder!

How high do you think it has to be? 100%?

 

That's your opinion in your own head vs scientific research done by the American Psychiatric Association, Human Rights Watch, Stanford university and the Hamilton project... which is not "in my own head".
I already told you that I don't care about your puny little opinion.

All off topic.

 

You failed to prove they commit most violent crime. Most violent crime goes unsolved.
And they arrest +300% more black people on drug related offenses while white people are more criminal.
Same thing with more black people get arrested when pulled over while white people got a higher % of being criminal.
Who the cops arrest means nothing about who commit crime. It's part of the institutionalized racism.
We've been through this extensively.

 

okay... so it's an systemic problem on many levels. I proved my point.

YOU brought it up. YOU need to explain it!

You can't be having this leap of faith, while you keep having a problem with 6 sources saying racism is all over the US justice department,
even going as far as saying that racial bias is a systemic problem on many levels meaning it's systemic racism is a thing in the US police force all over.

 

Your sources don't say that. If they did, you would have already quoted something relevant from them!

They commit the most SOLVED violent crime. So there's no reason to believe that they don't commit the most UNSOLVED violent crime.

Also, 62% of homicides are solved. This is obviously high enough to conclude that black people commit the most murder based on WAY more black people being arrested for murder! Blacks accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019.

How do you know the exact percentage if you're not taking into account UNSOLVED drug crime?

And your sources do not break down how much arrest is due to drug POSSESSION, and how much is due to SELLING. And blacks do a slight bit more selling according to one of your sources. None of your sources break down the type of drugs either. Blacks could be involved in a particular drug more than whites, and police might crack down more on this drug than other drugs.

Nothing about "racism" mentioned here: https://news.stanford.edu/press-releases/2020/05/05/veil-darkness-reas-traffic-stops/

And yet you are more than happy to use sources which use drug arrests!

 

APA does say that. I just quoted them. I put in red at the end of the post that Stanford says it too. You've just found a new low in being dishonest.

That's just your opinion. And it does not disprove a thing how racism is a systemic problem in the US justice department.

You are questioning my sources again with your puny little opinion... my sources stand if you can't debunk them with a credible source.

You need to prove your own point why this matters with a credible source. I don't care about your little puny opinion.

It almost immediately reads: researchers concluded that “police stops and search decisions suffer from persistent racial bias.
And: That is one of several examples of systematic bias



You flat out denying that this isn't about systemic racism after all these weeks of debating is utterly pathetic and down right low.
I'm about to end this conversation if this is all you got and put you on ignore if deny what my sources say.