Race and Crime

SOLVED crime is all we have to go on. Black people commit the most SOLVED violent crime. Simple!

I'm not questioning your sources, I'm questioning YOU! How do you know the exact percentage if you're not taking into account UNSOLVED drug crime?

Not all drugs are the same. I don't need a source for that!

Can you support your claim that this is an example of "systematic bias?"

Yes, I'm not surprised that you are coming to the end of your ability to debate me! You've done REALLY well though! I'm surprised you've lasted this long! Well done!

And yet you are more than happy to use sources which use drug arrests!

 

Indeed. And it means nothing about who is the bigger criminal. Just who the cops -with their systemic bias- ends up arresting more. Simple.

Indeed. My sources stand saying that the police got a systemic problem of being bias.

My source stands.

You need to source why this matters.

My source says "That is one of several examples of systematic bias".
My source stands.

 

Quite simply, some people want to be able to burn, loot and murder with impunity

 

You mean, Burn, Loot, and Murder? I can't claim that by the way!

 

Is that actually what you were referencing, or is it just a coincidence?

 

You're going to need to provide a source for your claim that the cops arrest more black people for violent crime because of racism!

So YOUR source DOES stand, but my source does NOT stand, even though they BOTH don't take into account UNSOLVED crime!

The cops and the justice system don't treat all drugs the same!

Traffic stops are only ONE aspect of policing, but I admit that it seems clear that there is some racial bias regarding that.

 

That is complete bullcrap. There are hundreds of murderers, black murderers running free in cities because the clearance rate is so low on black crime. In Chicago only 22% of the murders of blacks are even solved and an arrest made.

Let me go slow for you. Black man kills another black person and only 22% of the time they even get arrested! You have the gall to say too many black criminals are being arrested?

There is something seriously wrong with this country when people think that way. So in your opinion there should be fewer arrests of black men made when they commit violent or sexual crimes against others in that community?

 

Go back to the discussion Chris was having about black crime. I'm about to make a serious charge here.

There are many pro criminal prospectors today in our major cities. Kim Foxx in Chicago and George Gascon in LA are 2 of the worst. They are pro criminal not pro victim. What if they did not vigorously investigate and prosecute most violent crimes against blacks? On purpose!

Think about this. More black victims of crime and fewer blacks getting arrested for those crimes. The political objective is to make blacks look victimized right? Skew the statistics to make it look like blacks are only the victims not the perps!

Also arresting a black criminal means one less voter. One less hardcore democrat voter! Allow crime and mayhem to occur in these neighborhoods and then they decline even more economically. Who do you blame for that? Whites, republicans and capitalism.

 

Is that actually what you were referencing, or is it just a coincidence?

 

it was purposeful and it fits so well.

 

Can YOU claim it, or are you like me and cannot claim it?

 

HA!
It's your point that black people commit more violent crimes, but you can't prove it.

My source says who uses and sells the most drugs regardless of arrests. And it's a fact that whites got a higher chance of infractions with the law when pulled over.
So indeed. You got nothing. My sources stand.

You're trying to discredit my sources,... with your puny little opinion again.
My sources stand.

I put up 6 sources... covering more than 1 aspect.

 

You seem to have zero problems with just making up that 78% of unsolved crime must be done by black people. I wouldn't know how that aint fanatically racist.

 

SOLVED crime is all we have to go on. Black people commit the most SOLVED violent crime.
You're saying that the cops arrest more black people for violent crime because of racism! Well you're going to need to provide a source for that claim!

That has nothing to do with UNSOLVED drug crime!

Nope, I'm just stating a FACT that cops and the justice system don't treat all drugs the same!

You have two aspects which you are using. Drugs and traffic stops. That's only two aspects of policing.

Speaking of sources, I wonder if you have any which argue against this statement: It's a FACT that black people are not disproportionately killed by police.

 

Bullcrap they are crime statistics kept by the FBI. Most murders are among people who know each other. You are proving my conspiracy theory.

Over 90% of the time when a black person is murdered it is by another black person. We have decades of FBI uniform crime statistics that proves that out. We also know that there are 2x as many black murders of white people as whites murdering blacks. Again from FBI crime statistics.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/understating-black-on-black-murders/

 

You see what I mean by a conspiracy to not prosecute black murderers in our cities? To try and lie that whitey is coming in from the suburbs and murdering all these black folks in our big cities.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/f...-black-on-black-crime-are-similar/ar-BB19y4Pv

89% of murders are committed by people of the same race as the victim!

They want blacks to be victims of crime but not counted as perpetrators of crime.

Of course letting murderers run free means what? More violent crime and more murder! Against who? Blacks!

These people do not care about black lives at all.

 

Chris, realize that based on your comment that solved crime is all we have to go on statistically extreme libocrat prosecutors are now going out of their way to NOT prosecute and indict crimes against blacks.

It is evil.

 

it doesn't mean a thing, since cops also arrest more black people using/dealing drugs, while the fact is that white people commit more drug related crime. Same deal when pulled over.

I already proved it with my sources of American Psychological Association, Human Rights Watch, Stanford etc
Don't be naïve about it!

It actually is.

A fact without any sources is just an opinion.
You are proving nothing.

Untrue. The American Psychological Association notes that cops also shoot unarmed black and armed black people more often in a 1st person shooting game. And there are probably more examples. While you got nothing.

 

You stated yourself... "In Chicago only 22% of the murders of blacks are even solved and an arrest made."... and so you're making up how it goes with the other 78% of the time. Now that is bullcrap.

Not true.
It's known who does and deals drugs more. It's the white population. Black people still get arrested +300% more often, and get incarcerated 650% more often. This is not exactly a slight flaw that you can overlook. Black people are also punching above their weight when pulled over. But the fact is as well that whites, when pulled over, got a higher % of being in trouble.

So who the police arrests means absolutely nothing about what to think about the solved crime.
You got the cops to thank for that. Cops who are as a whole got a problem about being racist.

I've sourced this extensively with Chris.

 

You're conveniently using drugs because that's the only crime that whites commit more of. So then what about violent crime?
SOLVED crime data is all we have to go on. Black people commit the most SOLVED violent crime. Simple!

Your sources are not about VIOLENT CRIME! You're saying that the cops arrest more black people for violent crime because of racism! Well you're going to need to provide a source for that claim!

And your sources do not take UNSOLVED drugs crime into consideration! Now, I personally don't care about unsolved crime, and think that the data in your sources can be used regardless, but the problem is that you ignore unsolved drug crime, but you do NOT ignore unsolved violent crime! Double standard!

Speaking of sources, I wonder if you have any which argue against this statement: It's a FACT that black people are not disproportionately killed by police.

You actually think that the police treat all drugs the same! Yeah, I'm sure that marijuana is treated IDENTICALLY to meth

What the hell do 1st person shooting games have to do with policing?

 

False. I also used the data of driving while black, while whites are the biggest criminals there too. You know that, so you're being dishonest.
And only? You failed to prove that. You only got who cops arrest. We've been through this extensively that this doesn't mean a thing. You're dishonest about this too.

We've already extensively argued that it doesn't mean a thing. I'm not going to repeat those argument again that you lost.

I already extensively proved that cops are racist. "don't be naïve about it"
You are dishonest to demand I need to prove this again.

The green bars are about solved and unsolved drug crime... and it shows a massive discrepancy of the purple bars that are about arrests and incarceration.




You previously and falsely claimed that my sources are not about drugs crime. I again proved you wrong.
I'm not going to continue to these false accusations again and am cutting you short, because you lost the argument weeks ago.
You got nothing new to put in as a rebuke.

 

Not since the days of phrenology have we had such absurdity in logical conclusions..

 

I'm sorry, just a moment....
These guys never picked up a book on Roman society

 

You're conveniently using drugs and driving crime because they are the only crimes that whites commit more of. So then what about violent crime? SOLVED crime data is all we have to go on. Black people commit the most SOLVED violent crime. Simple!

What the hell does this have to do with arrests for violent crime? You're saying that the cops arrest more black people for violent crime because of racism! Well you're going to need to provide a source for that claim! I'm still waiting!

Uh, no. As you can see, the green bars are 'use drugs', and 'sell drugs.'

No I did not.

Speaking of sources, I wonder if you have any which disputes this statement: It's a FACT that black people are not disproportionately killed by police. DO YOU AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT OF FACT?

What the hell do 1st person shooting games have to do with policing?

 

You failed to prove how it is with violent crime. And solved crime data means nothing since cops got a massive systemic racist problem in their ranks.

I already proved systemic racism in the US police force, and how that results in massive discrepancies in who they arrest. Hence it is logical you can not trust who police arrest on specifically violent crimes. Violent crime and who does it the most remains YOUR point, and YOU can't prove who does it the most. We've been through this extensively and I'm not going to respond to your unfounded accusations again.

So that's solved + unsolved crime. Simple.

source it

You can see how cops react in a safe controlled environment. And they shoot black people more, armed and unarmed.
It's part of proving that there is systemic racism in the US police force by the American Psychological Association.