Racist Biden Deportation Machine Sending Blacks To Die In Haiti.

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  1. Imnotreallyhere

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    Calling out a policy you agree with is not the way to go about this. Does agreeing with the policy make you a Biden supporter? I have no problem deporting people who are here illegally, but I do have a problem with detaining them in inhumane conditions. Does that make me racist? Or not, because I do not support the policy wholeheartedly?

    Are you being intellectually consistent when you call out Biden on immigration this way? You are asking others to demonstrate a virtue that you do not show at this time.
     
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    Ideally, I want to see them turned away AT the border.
     
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    Aha! You have discovered my subtle use of satire to make my point!

    Aha! That would be my preference as well.

    Unfortunately, as established by the neoliberal intelligencia, the "progressives," the failed academy, the Fourth Estate, the wokes, Black Lies Matter, Panty-Fa, the Donk politicians (and a smattering of Reds for good measure), that is not how it is done any more. Fallacies that paint in the broadest possible strokes are now not only de rigueur, but a moral imperative.

    Let me give you an example if it helps: A person who supported Trump, for example, is: a. racist; b. sexist, c. misogynist; d. white supremacist; e. toxic nationalist; f. authoritarian; g. social dominance oriented; h. fascist; i. prejudiced against religious minorities; j. sycophantic; k. rejects intergroup contact; i. suffers relative deprivation; j. homophobic; k. transphobic... the list goes on. There is no actual evidence to support this fraudulent grab-bag of prevarication, but the mold was cast and duplicated the world over. In fact, it was no longer good enough to just not be a Trump supporter if you wanted to avoid the grist mill of the angry mob with their torches and pitchforks and molotov cocktails and AK-47s as they smashed and burned every tilted windmill they could imagine in their collective almost-consciousness... no you had to be rabidly anti-Trump, you had to disavow him and his 80 million deplorable supporters and as a bonus you got to say "see how racist America is????" One massive fallacy, an ocean of bitter Kool Aid enthusiastically guzzled to signal your virtue, your enlightenment, and your grievance with the duly-enacted laws of a sovereign nation pretending it was the only one in history ever to deport and unlawfully present person.

    To wit: the big one is the conflation of the objective enforcement of immigration policy -- again the immigration policy duly enacted by the Congress and the normative state of international relations for decades -- with bigotry and hatred of brown people. Listening to some of the rhetoric of the Mad Maxine Waterses, the estimable Congressmenstruatingperson Alexandria Occasional Cortexes, the Andy "harass them panties right off" Cuomos, the Kamela Gigglypants "never met a black man she didn't want to incarcerate" Harrises, the Corey "no pithy nickname" Bookers, the Ilhan "never met a relative I didn't want to marry" Omars, the Rashida "kill the Jews" Tlaibs, and their lapdogs in the Fourth Estate, errrrm, "guardians of democracy" named Accost-Her, Madcow, Lemon, Fredo Cuomo, you'd have thought Trump himself created ICE as a white supremacist organization to round up the brown children on their way home from school and send them back to whatever "shithole" they came from. So the act of enforcing the longstanding laws of the nation were conflated with all the racist mythology such as to cause unprecedented pearl clutching, rending of souls, gnashing of teeth, and some awesome awesome arson fires.

    I have the explanation: Cognitive dissonance. Again, that's me being charitable.

    Aye! There's the rub. No, friend, I'm very sorry, but you can't have it both ways: If Trump's impetus for enforcing immigration law and deporting nonwhite people -- as claimed by the cabal above with ZERO EVIDENCE to substantiate said position -- is racism, and by extension his supporters are painted with the same brush -- again with ZERO EVIDENCE -- then ZERO EVIDENCE is required to apply the same standards for the same behaviors to a different group of people IF we are being intellectually consistent. I mean FFS, Maxine Waters has been more tight lipped than a devout nun's genitals as her buddy Biden deports "HER PEOPLE" by the THOUSANDS while during Trump she nearly tripped over her own ankles trying to jump in front of every camera she could find while squealing "racisssssss! racissssssss!"

    100%.

    You didn't get the memo? We don't consider other factors any more.

    So you see, if you support Biden you are a racist... at the very least.
     
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  4. Bow To The Robots

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    Well, obviously I disagree.

    Ah, ah, ah, ah, uh... moving the goalposts! The days of thoughtful, nuanced arguments are over. See: Trump Deportation Machine.

    If you support a racist, you are a racist. Joe Biden is a racist. I'll leave the mathematics to you.

    Fallacy, argumentum ad hominem: I am not the topic of this thread.
     
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    You! Shhhhhhhhh! :razz:
     
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    Wasn't the Drumpf ancestor German or Austrian not Polish??
     
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    Instead we have an administration who literally rolled out the welcome mat and then said "don't come" (wink, wink).
     
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    We have 25% of Chinas population in similarly sized country??? I don't think we have a crowding issue many of or states are virtually empty.
     
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    Unfortunately ICE does not have the manpower to control the entire border constantly. Also airports and seaports need to be considered. Add in people who overstay their visas and it shapes up to be a problem of monumental proportions.

    I assume these people have been denied entry or do not want to wait for an answer to their petition to become resident aliens. That means they're going to cross where ICE isn't watching closely enough, then disappear as quickly and completely as possible. That means there has to be some kind of detention while their stories are checked out after getting caught. Deporting a citizen because he looked foreign is worse than a bad detention system IMO.
     
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    I thought the same way with Trump and his immigration policy. Obama's too, for that matter. They're all the same policy. I don't see the problem with enforcing the law as it stands. That includes Civil Rights legislation.That includes the first ten amendments to the Constitution. Are all those racist too now? Calling everyone racist over one issue seems overly simplistic.

    Trump had other incidents in his record and several unfortunate turns of phrase. So does Biden. For the record I believe both men are racists. But not over immigration.


    I would say if you support racist policies, you are a racist. Enforcing immigration law is not racism.


    You were accusing some people of being disingenuous, that is the thrust of your argument; I am merely pointing out that you are using disingenuous yourself in the very same way. I say you can't complain about hypocrisy when you are a hypocrite yourself.
     
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    Unfortunately your very reasonable -- and fact-based -- argument is no longer valid in the marketplace of woke ideas.

    Agreed.

    Here is their reply:

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    Ah, fair point. See: Satire. 8)
     
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    Many Democrats actually want these immigrants to be let into America.
     
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    Done. Having started with satire, it is impossible to tell where you stopped. I'm done here.
     
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    Trump and Sessions made up laws as they went....
     
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    But they all have 2 Senators which enable the GOP to cram a bunch of right wing idiots into our federal court system.
     
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    A wall would have helped physically concentrating invasions to points more easily checked. You steal into our country once....we deport you. 2nd tie you get two years cleaning our forests.....that's how I would handle it A wall would have been a message as well as a barrier. Anyone caught who failed
    to report for their court date could clean our forests as well! You can tell, I like clean forests!
     
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    First, what do you mean by 'cleaning our forests'? I'm a camper too. Humans are really bad custodians of wild places. Check out the history of Yosemite. Currently, illegal immigration is not a criminal offense, so a sentence of hard labor is impossible.
     
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    Thanks for playing. LOL.
     
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    Obama, Trump, Biden... Peas in a pod.
     
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    OK, I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong. Mad Maxine Waters has in fact come out today with blistering criticism of Biden's treatment of the unlawfully present Haitians. She said it was worse than slavery -- about Biden. That lady is hiding some balls somewhere. I just don't want to know where. But good for her to stand on the courage of her convictions.
     
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    I believe first time it's a misdemeanor. 2nd time it is more serious. That's all immaterial because Biden could give a sh&* about our laws anyway. He makes his own. I was evacuated from my home for ten days due to a wildfire. The idiots in Washington D.C. (same ones that open our borders) have suppressed natural caused fires for more than 90 years. They also stop logging and cattle grazing to save the spotted owl. The result? we have undergrowth and sick forests just waiting to burn and when they burn it sterilizes the ground. The ranchers knew that and so did the Native Americans. They both did control burns seasonally or allowed natural burns to do the work. Of course O'Biden will blame that on climate change. I believe we need to discourage those that would invade our borders. I believe 2nd offences invading our border DOES warrant hard labor. Our entitlements are at stake here. We have a lot to overcome. Those thousands of Haitians did not walk all the way here. We have Marxist American Lawyers providing them with instructions and transportation.
     
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    Some are better than others. I belong to a mountain bike club and a shooting club and we regularly do cleanups on public lands. Most of the trash we find comes from homeless and/or addicts living in the woods of Central Oregon. Then I've participated in some cleanups in Southern Arizona -- well you know who's trashing those public lands... Organ Pipe National Monument, an achingly-beautiful sparse desert landscape is trashed daily by Biden's illegal alien trains. From the monument's website:

    What most people want to know: Is the monument a safe place to visit?
    Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument is a safe place to visit. However, illegal border crossings and activities, including drug smuggling, occur daily. It is unlikely that you will encounter any illegal border activity, but you should be aware that such a situation is possible. Many safety precautions are in existence as a means to protect you and to continue preserving this national treasure.

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    How Biden's "guests" treat your public lands.

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    Then there are the rape trees. :frown:

    After the coyotes rape their clients, they hang their panties on trees like trophies.

    First offense is a misdemeanor. Second offense -- reentry after deportation -- is now (about time) -- a felony. In addition to unlawful entry (now called 'irregular' to be politically correct), there are the myriad of crimes criminal aliens need to commit just to function here: most commonly illegal employment (perjury), sometimes supported by fraudulent documents (felony), sometimes tax evasion (could be a felony). Not to mention once you have that phony SSN, all the bennies you can grab (felony, fraud, forgery).
     
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    Of course you would think that because that was what you were told to think but Congress passed the laws that Trump enforced (the administrations job you know) and now Biden is following, though not really, the same laws.
     
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    Looks like a fail if you want the horseback incident to demonstrate Biden and his administration's racism.

    "I think it's important for people to know this is not who we are," Psaki said. "That's not who the Biden-Harris administration is, and we're going to absolutely pursue that investigation and get to the bottom of what happened here."

    Speaking to reporters in Washington, Vice President Kamala Harris also commented for the first time on the images, calling the treatment “horrible” and saying she supported an investigation backed by Mayorkas.

    "What I saw depicted about those individuals on horseback treating human beings the way they were, was horrible," Harris said. “And I fully support what is happening right now, which is a thorough investigation into exactly what is going on there. But human beings should never be treated that way. And I'm deeply troubled about it, and I'll also be talking to Secretary Mayorkas today about it."

    On the Senate floor Tuesday, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer called on the Biden administration to halt expulsions of Haitian asylum seekers under Title 42, calling the images of immigrants being rounded up by horseback "stomach-turning."
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bid...-migrants-horrific-horrible/story?id=80144223
     
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    Blah. Blah. Blah. Actions speak louder than words.
     

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