Rand Paul questions Dr. Rachel Levine on puberty blockers for minors with gender dysphoria

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Ahhhh you missed the news today. There is no more Mr. Potato Head, or a Mrs. Potato Head. In the future they will be gender neutral.

    Where are we going as a society that we no longer recognize and in fact try to hide the basic human condition that there are male humans and female humans. Instead we "evolve" into some homogenous species and the human in us loses that female male tension that is such a vital part? Or was and I don't know what has gotten better the more we try to suffocate that.
     
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    What a deep and intellectual rebuttal.
     
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    What if the child decided he wanted to be a cat. Goes and tells his parents that he wants to have surgery on his ears to make them look like cat ears, same on his eyes and his nose and have his face tattooed to look like a cat and down his arms and legs. And the parents say "sure if that's what you want" would you believe that should be allowed to proceed? What if the child without the parents consent wanted to that, should it be allowed? Or do you think we as a society should step in on behalf of the child to PROTECT the child from such an abuse of their childhood and proper growth?
     
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    Rand doesn’t dress like a woman and he seemed to be the only one saying govt knows better than you, how to raise your kids.
     
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    You are exactly correct. That man suffers not from a physical ailment of being born in the wrong body, but a mental ailment of his mind thinking he is a woman, when all Science confirms that he is a man. He is in serious need of mental healthcare, but instead Joe Biden put him in charge of much of the nation's health? He actually has no issue with children being mutilated and drugged. It's purely insane.
     
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    I understand that you are trying to be cute here but the question stands. Phobia of what? THe nominee did what he wanted as an adult. THis is about minors and he won't answer the question

    please enlighten us as to how that is OK
     
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    correct and yes, the guy needed mental assistance, not having his penis lopped off of the body. And that guy would now think it ok for minors to do the same...............
     
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    There seems to be some confusion on the meaning of transphobia. It's not necessarily fear, but hate. You're intentionally misgendering her. That's textbook transphobic behavior.

    Like I said in my original comment, I'm inclined to agree with conservatives (and others) that she should answer the question and clarify whether she thinks that surgery before adulthood is a bad idea. But it gives me serious pause when I find myself agreeing with people demonstrating such hateful bigotry as is rampant in this thread. *******s misgendering her and calling her "it," describing medical procedures as mutilation... I prefer to call that bullshit out rather than encourage it through consensus.
     
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    It appears your knowledge is incomplete.
     
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    Who determines when PROTECTion is needed?
    Should the state intervene if parents are trying to indoctrinate their children into religious cults? What about if they are wanting to genitally mutilate their child? Or sending their child through forced therapy?
     
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    what do the chromosomes show that person to be?

    Do you deny science?
     
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    Gender and sex aren't the same thing. And there are plenty of examples of folks with penises who have two X chromosomes, vagina-owners with Y chromosomes, etc. I know you want to take comfort in some false idea that the science on this is black and white, but it's not.
     
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    Then the nominee should discuss this openly instead of "Oh I will meet with you and your staff in private if you wish". There is no public discourse in a behind the doors conversation even if held honestly, which some apparently assume it would not be under the circumstances.
     
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    I agree, and it's easy to agree with your post because you didn't fill it with a bunch of transphobic nonsense.
     
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    You are trying to mix up treatments like puberty blockers and hormones with surgeries. Clearly they are two different things.
     
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    what in the heck is transphobic nonsense? Was the nominee born with a penis? Much like judges need to recuse themselves from certain cases, this "person" should not be considered for this taxpayer funded job due to his having had a lopmydickoffme surgery. He won't even answer the question if he thinks that it's OK for minors to go through that surgery.

    Give him a different taxpayer funded job
     
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    There you go again, asking and answering yourself.
     
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    Do you freaking understand the differences between a question and an argument? FFS!
     
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    Weak. There are many laws on the books aimed to protect children.
     
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    I'm so sick of people trying to convince me that red is blue. Gender and sex are the same. fu**ing. thing. I These "trans" people are hijacking common sense.
    Now, of course if your born with a mutation then medicine should intervene. BUT ONLY IN THAT CASE. If it's not clear, it pisses me off that there are Americans who don't have the "balls" to even state that it's NOT ok to mutilate our children. What is wrong with those people?
     
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    And I agree with him, govt knows better.
     
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    Ha! Mr. Clean is next!!!

    Did we come up with any new terms to replace Mr. Mrs, Him, Her, He, She?
     
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    Nope, gender is a social construct that is often linked to sex, but they are different. And while I think that gender-affirming surgery isn't appropriate for children, finding myself on a side with folks spewing vile things is pretty alarming.
     
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    And yet, you provide nothing either.
     

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