Reparations for Slavery.

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    "Reptiles run the word!!!"

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    How long will you keep deflecting from the question, AD?

    Tell us how many drops of slave blood will make the grade? Tell us who is 'black enough'.

    You talk of practicality .... put your money where your mouth is. Give us the PRACTICALITIES.
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    You would have explain what you mean. What is practical? what would be happening?
     
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    How long will you keep waving your ridiculous, transparent red herring?

    How long will you continue this parody line of inquiry? Tell us.

    See the thread I started & make an actual contribution to the discussion.

    :)
     
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    Feel free to make a contribution to the thread I started on the topic. :)
     
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    Considering the looting in Ferguson and all over the nation recently.......

    Let's just consider any possible "reparations" PAID IN FULL ;)

    Actually, the nation is owed a refund.
     
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    Poor argument.

    Worse than the OP's 2 million a pop.
     
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    I have
     
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    Only until you (or Moriah) tell us exactly how many drops of black slave blood will meet your criteria for reparations.

    This thread IS about reparations, no? In which case whoever argues for them must know how such a thing could done. But if this is all just wish-thinking/dreaming, say so and stop pretending you're serious.
     
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    I believe that you believe you have. :)
     
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    :roflol:

    Wave that herring!

    It's getting redder & redder from air friction. :nod:
     
  12. BasicHumanUnit2

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    Oh, so you don't think all the tens of millions in stolen property was of any value?
    You see no value in the lives of white girls who were forced into MODERN DAY slavery by black pimps?
    Sex Trafficking of Americans: The Girls Next Door
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/05/human-trafficking-201105
    It's cool to give "reparations" for slavery to millions who NEVER experienced it, but not to those victimized by looters or whites suffering slavery today??

    To the contrary.
    The argument is so good, it's over your head.
     
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    He can't / won't.
    He is unable to rationalize the reality of such, because logic evades those driven by their emotions
     
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    The proposal for reparations is a topic that has been resurrected many times since the end of the civil war. While it can be argued that reparations never happened under the banner of ‘Reparations’, billions have been expended into social programs welfare, education assistance, low cost housing, etc. by local, state and federal programs along with various programs to give preference in hiring and similar advantages based on race. That many of those programs failed to produce the promises of equality, racial harmony, by the Democrat party (the former party of slavery) is demonstrative of the emptiness of the promises that are proffered to attract the votes of those strung out for decades by those promising minorities they will benefit.
    Another question... is there a sort of statute of limitations...how long are the decedents of slave owners to be held accountable? Are Italians accountable to decedents of their slaves? The Chinese for theirs. Or, even native Americans for theirs? Or... for much of the last 3 thousand years, slavery was institution supported throughout history by most societies. It still occurs.
     
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    Naw.
     
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    "Logic evades those driven by their emotions..."

    AIn't that the truth.

    o_O
     
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    No one is being "held accountable."

    It's a practical solution for a terrible centuries-old problem.

    But some good points otherwise.
     
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    I'll pay the slaves that I personally had, all their backpay. Deal?
     
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    Here's a concept to ponder.....
    Entitled racists demanding a free ride at the expense of everyone else.
    The hedonistic chant we hear from the non producers every day. AOC for example.

    With so many haters, all wanting their entitlements, America is fracturing.

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand"
    Abraham Lincoln

    The Left salivates.
     
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    No, they want YOU to work hard, but give all your earnings and all your net worth to them....since their great great great grandparents "might' have worked on a plantation.

    In other words....they want a Free Ride at others expense.
    There is no one alive today that owned slaves, except pimps holding white girls as sex slaves all across America today.

    "All that was required for evil men to make a fool of you was for you to do nothing"

    Good job
     
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    We would disagree on what is practical. You correctly observe it is a centuries old problem. But, it is also a centuries old evolved product of culture that won’t be solved by awarding money to those supposedly injured by the lingering of the racial attitudes that helped rationalize and perpetuated slavery. Without changing the underlying culture, all reparations will do, is to substitute one form of racial inequity for another still propagating the idea of difference over unity, resulting in the reinforcement of the racial tensions that already exist, and do nothing to mitigate racism. Reparations will not be a form of justice, since those enslaved are long gone. That means there is no consensus to the base for which justice can be equitably and empirically measure that will find unbiased consensus.
    The undercurrent of racism in this country is not unidirectional, it is partly based on judging or feeling judged by others based on their easily identifiable skin color. It is not a money problem, it is far more complex and until a real understanding of the problem is achieved it will continue. In the US, it isn’t just a black and white issue (pun intended), but still in evidence with Native Americans, Asians, Spanish speakers, etc. It also extends to political differences, red hat wearers, sexual orientation and more. In the mid-east the basis is religious intolerance, something still seen in China. In Japan, it’s anyone not Japanese. Look around the world, discrimination persists in many countries. In the country I was raised, it is a combination heritage and religion. Any Brit that finds where I was raised will immediately register recognition and judge me based on certain expectations. Hell, if I go to England proper, I am immediately judged a probable terrorist by my accent... even in the city I was raised, being caught after dark in certain areas and my accent is over heard can mean I may not make it home unscathed even in these days. Hell, when I meet a new American, on finding the country of my accent, and then finding the city, will invariable as me ‘is the religious war still happening’ and the always asked question, ‘were you in the IRA?’
    It’s been more than two decades since the Peace agreement and the discriminatory attitudes persist. And, there are still polarized extremist groups looking for an opportunity to reignite armed conflict to advance their agendas, many in those groups hoping BREXIT will provide the match.
    How do we change the culture of inequity. It’s a good question. A difficult one. But, some knew jerk suggested fixes like reparations carry the baggage of reinforcing differences, not leveling the field as many emotionally think, and would have the opposite effect than intended. Then too, the debate itself may have unintended consequences given the entrenched differences of opinions. The recent protests, while justified IMO, have become lost in meaning and have reinforced the opinions and fears of many of those spreading malicious narratives of racial differences. Both sides are growing further apart, not closer together. The Reparation debate will be another point for those wanting to increase the divide.
    Inherent in the US Constitution are the principles of equality. Going forward they need to become the on of the cornerstones not just in name, but as an underpinning to our culture, a larger culture that is the blend of many cultures.
     
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    Couldn't agree more. Reparations would set it all back by decades.
     
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    Money doesn't need to be "awarded."

    See my thread on this sub-forum.
     
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    "That vaccination's going to melt your brain!"

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    Here. Here. Be nice. :)
     
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