Reparations I can live with...

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Asheville NC voted 7-0 to create a Community Reparations Commission. The resolution reads: “The resulting budgetary and programmatic priorities may include but not be limited to increasing minority home ownership and access to other affordable housing, increasing minority business ownership and career opportunities, strategies to grow equity and generational wealth, closing the gaps in health care, education, employment and pay, neighborhood safety and fairness within criminal justice.”
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm all for chains for cash exchange. Anything less is total nonsense. I'm not paying punitive racist taxes for actions myself and direct ancestors had nothing to do with...
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what being "all for chains for cash exchange" means. If you are white American heritage your family contributed to Institutional racism unless they were outliers who fought against it.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    IF you can prove you wore chains and were a slave, you deserve reparations. IF not you are simply trying to exploit people for profit based on the suffering of your ancestors...
     
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    Antifa, Black Lives Matter & Democrat Party Owe Americans Reparations.

     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    white jewish europeans who were not in the holocaust claim reparations. the precedent has been set.
     
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    What are the real goals of those advocating for reparations? What problem/s would reparations solve that haven’t incrementally driven policy attempted over the last 175+ years such as the confiscation of the properties and assets of all slave owners of the time, implementing racial preferential treatment for housing, education, government benefits and jobs (in exchange for votes)?
    How does the justification for reparations not endlessly apply to every other similar grievance such as those that native Americans might have. How far do the sins of the fathers (of a minority...yes, in this case slave owners were a minority) extend to decedents?
    If reparations are intended to remedy the disparity of racial discrimination, why is the solution based on racial criteria? Once race becomes part of the equation, logically, it becomes a two edge sword; equality, means equality...period. One injustice, one wrong is not remedied by reversing who is wronged in some kind of it’s my turn thinking. MLK knew this and articulated it better than any in his Dream speech... why I think he stands as one of the most rational,inspiring thinkers in History.
    For the record, I was raised in a country where the ethnic discrimination of my persuasion was equivalent to what I observed in the US with minorities in the US... Our civil rights movement was directly inspired by MLK in the 60’s and currently stand near equivalent to that in the US, in other words, the ethnic attitudes, differences in opportunities, and class preferences still persist, so I understand the emotional appeal of righting past injustices. But, how would that be implemented, at what cost, and at what risk of unintended adverse consequences?
     
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    It's a racist organization, are you saying they are nervous as well? They lie about the American People with nearly every breath, and if they think that is endearing them to the American People, and they are filled with a deep sense of unease, that's appropriate.

    You don't sense that the American People are tired of being falsely slandered as "racists" when we all know that it's gas-lighting in service of accumulating political power so they can take away our Liberty and Freedom?

    The way they lie, assault, loot, and commit arson, these are not mentally healthy folks. What they need is an intervention, they need to quit committing felonies against their fellow Americans.

    But, some folks are betting that this will help them in November, we'll see, it's certainly not our approach. Our approach is hope, love, and a positive vision for the American People.

    I think you'll see quite a contrast between the DNC and RNC conventions.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Well don't you live in a little world of darkness and fear.
    It's a racist organization? Are you saying BLM, Antifa and the Democratic party are the same thing? That's quite the conspiracy theory and ignorant. They are manipulating the public through propaganda in order to take away your "Freedom and Liberty"? That's quite a charge. This cabal is crazy and we will no longer have the rule of law? It sounds like the End Times if we don't vote for Trump.
    No wonder racists are nervous.
     
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    I want reparations for my stolen lunch money.. and that hasn't been that long ago either.
     
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    Nonsense. My family was in the states since 1640 and lived in abject poverty in the south all the way up until the the end of world war 2 when they could finally make a living wage in the car industry in Detroit. They were mostly sharecroppers who could not have begun to afford a slave. The confederate soldiers in my family history were conscripted and many died or lost limbs. So whites suffer too no matter how desperately you wish to not believe this.
     
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    As much could be done by simply reducing the amount of foreign immigration.

    African American communities have been by far the hardest hit, especially since they are often located in the more affordable quarters of big city areas where most of the foreign immigration flocks to.

    There are NUMEROUS other threads about this.
     
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    The shoe clearly fits. What was it Nancy Pelosi said again.... "It's what people do"... of course. Hence her not having said a word to try to stop the violence plaguing the country. Yes, BLM is run by marxists. ANTIFA is run by marxists, and as soon as AOC ascends, so will the DNC. There is little room for any liberty or freedom in that cabal. Does it make you think you're winning when you trot out this kind of election interference propaganda?
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    So you believe institutional racism is a myth that has prevented African Americans from accumulating wealth?
     
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    Defined: Black "leaders" will pocket the swag, and the "field -------" might get a new pair of coveralls. Same old, same old. Will they EVER wise up?
     
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    I think it is an excuse. I don’t put up with excuses. I don’t blame shift I got to educating myself and got to work and scrimped and saved and even avoided buying a car so I can invest. There is nothing preventing African Americans from doing the same.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    No one "runs" BLM or Antifa and certainly not Marxists. You are just trying to scare the old people unless you have evidence to the contrary. If anyone's spreading propaganda it is you.
     
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    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Therefore you do not know or care to know the painful parts of American history. I get it.
     
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    Then be a victim and wait for an infinite number of special privileges or realize, like Asians in particular, that this gets you nowhere and life is about effort without regard to whom one can blame for one’s lack of initiative. Even here in the Netherlands people understand this.
    Other ethnic groups have been just as much or more burdened by the American system and came out on top.
    But keep trying the blame game and see how far that takes people.
    I wish you the best.
     
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    Okay, stay ignorant of US history.
     
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    What would be ignorant is to pretend they aren't working in cooperation with mutual support.
    Freedom from assault?
    Freedom from battery?
    Freedom from arson?
    Freedom to walk or drive through your own downtown area?
    Freedom from head kicks?
    Do you not recognize our right to be free from organized riots, assaults, looting and arson?
    Are you unaware of what is going on in our cities? Of the crazy nuts trying to defund our police in some of our most violent cities?
    You are laboring under the misconception that as a society we went to professional police forces to protect citizens from criminals, actually, it was to protect criminals from citizens. So no, your hyperbole aside, not the "end times" but, certainly a step backwards in our advancements securing due process for those accused of crimes.
    Who are you slandering as "racists" and what is your evidence?
     
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    Made a comment then thought what’s the point.
     
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    NO ENEMIES TO THE LEFT: After Day Three Of The DNC, Still No Denunciation Of Riot Violence.
     
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