Russia commemorates the 76th anniversary of its victory in the Second World War

The USSR was never going to survive Chernobyl. The people lost faith in their government and Yeltsin restored that faith. Russia is better off today because of Yeltsin.

 

USSR was not able to survive command economy and soviet bureaucracy.

 

Thanks for that - that never registered with me before, ever.
Can I say the Soviets then?
Just reading the Winter War - how Stalin thought to just
invade Poland because it was too close to Leningrad.
Yes Hitler is the monster of war, Stalin hardly ever.

 

Or you can just call them Russians when talking about WW2. In my opinion both Stalin and Hitler were monsters.

 

Of course it is not possible for the people of an un-bombed, un-invaded nation really to understand what happened to the Russians. The Nazis and their allies occupied Soviet territory in which 88,000,000 people had lived. They destroyed, completely or partially, fifteen large cities, 1,710 towns, and 70,000 villages. They burned or demolished 6,000,000 buildings and deprived 25,000,000 people of shelter.

They demolished 31,850 industrial enterprises, 65,000 kilometers of railway track and 4,100 railway stations; 36,000 postal, telegraph and telephone offices; 56,000 miles of main highway, 90,000 bridges and 10,000 power stations. The Germans ruined 1,135 coal mines and 3,000 oil wells, carrying off to Germany 14,000 steam boilers, 1,400 turbines and 11,300 electric generators.

Any reflection on these figures by American city dwellers will undermine the idea that Russia can have no motive in the world except aggression. Farm people, too, will see another possibility when they think of the meaning of 98,000 collective farms and 2,890 machine and tractor stations sacked and the following numbers of livestock slaughtered by the Germans or carried away by them: 7,000,000 horses, 17,000,000 cattle, 20,000,000 hogs, 27,000,000 sheep and goats, 110,000,000 poultry. What would the American countryside be like if this kind of scourge had passed over it? And what feelings would be left behind?

The Germans and their satellites were no more tender with Soviet cultural institutions. They looted and destroyed 40,000 hospitals and medical centers, 84,000 schools and colleges, and 43,000 public libraries with 110,000,000 volumes. Some 44,000 theaters were destroyed, and 427 museums. Even the churches did not escape, more than 2,800 being wrecked.

In this country these figures do not burn holes in the page, but in Russia what they represent has been burned so deeply into the minds of the people that generations of safe living would be required even partially to eradicate them. There are between Nashville and Atlanta some people who still feel deeply about what General Sherman did on his march to the sea nearly a hundred years ago. What would our feelings be if the United States had been ravaged, as Russia was, from the Atlantic to the Mississippi, with 15,000,000 people killed, twice as many made homeless, and 60,000,000 treated to every degrading and brutalizing experience that the fascist mind could invent? Only then could we really know how the Russians feel about their security from future attack through East Europe.

The Rule of Fear and Hindsight in World Politics

D. F. Fleming

The Western Political Quarterly

Vol. 3, No. 4 (Dec., 1950), pp. 528-537

Published by: University of Utah on behalf of the Western Political Science Association

https://www.jstor.org/stable/442512?seq=1

 

Did you forget the civil war ?

Many Americans suffered war, bombing, invasion, draconian military occupation and rule by the enemy and starvation!

Many such stories were handed down in my Confederate family.

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Where did you get that 30 mill russians died, I thought the figure was less than 1/2 that with most of the dead from subservient slavic
states

 

The United States won WWII. Russia tried valiantly to lose it, but in spite of Communism, Stalin, incompetence, and total disregard for human life, and joining up with the NAZIs, Russia didn't lose because they had plenty of land and cannon fodder, and the assistance of the United States.

Meanwhile the USA fought major conflicts with the Axis on a global scale and trounced the enemies handily. As a result, Pas Americana has made this the most peaceful time in human history. You're welcome.

 

The US didn't even take Berlin or free anyone from the concentration camps. 90% of the Nazis killed were killed on the Eastern Front.

I suppose you think the US won Vietnam and Korea too....oh what...the war is technically still going on in Korea. But at least there's Afghanistan...oh wait. Or Syria...oh wait.

Okay, okay, you can hang your hat on bombing the **** out of Serbia to create Kovoso so the US could put the largest US base in Europe there. You got me on that one.

 

Oh dear. Well at least you know how to make a little laughing glyph. So there's that. Otherwise, you're not very reliable:

US forces liberated the Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar, Germany, on April 11, 1945. Earlier that day before the arrival of US troops, an underground prisoner resistance organization seized control of Buchenwald to prevent atrocities by the retreating camp guards. When American forces arrived, they encountered more than 20,000 prisoners at Buchenwald. That April, US troops also liberated Dachau, Dora-Mittelbau, and Flossenbürg. They liberated Mauthausen in early May.
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The rest of your post was nonsense, maybe add a few more animated characters next time.

 

The Russians got what they deserved after joining the Nazis in attacking their neighboring countries. If Hitler hadn't screwed up and prematurely stabbed Stalin in the back, Russia would have done much better before the USA kicked their asses too.

 

Let's not forget that Russia is also something of an evil empire. It invaded many countries
and treated the inhabitants brutally.
Russia tried to start WWII during Lenin's day, but they were defeated in Poland. Stalin
would have started WWII if German was weakened fighting in Poland etc..

 

We let the Russkis take Berlin.....the Russkis knew it. Pyhrric victory as Germany reunited and in NATO.

US never freed any one from the camps?....wow that's a stretch.

Sovs "liberated" Auschwitz then proceeded to deny (in sorts) that it even existed....according to some Russkis ive met.

We never "lost" in Vietnam.....we left.

Russkis lost in Astan....where's the former SU and WP?

South Korea is vibrant,progressive,rich and modern. North Korea is a dark craphole ....from space satellites images even. Much like East Germany was before reuniting.

 

No country that had experienced so much devastation and suffering was in a position to threaten the peace of the world. Nevertheless, the assumption between Winston Churchill's "Iron Curtain" speech and the Truman Doctrine was that the Soviet Union intended to conquer the world, and was likely to succeed unless the United States and Western Europe made enormous sacrifices.

 

When the U.S. military left Vietnam clinging to its helicopters it did not look like a victory parade.

 

Tell that to the Russian people who were going hungry, as certain favored individuals with loans from foreign banks bought up all the countries wealth and sent the money to outside sources.

The people's faith was restored by Vladimir Putin, who began clamping down on corruption and forced the oligarchs to start paying their taxes.

 

The American people have no idea what war is like, but the way our country is pushing it, we will find out soon enough.

As for the garbage and propaganda coming out from the Russophrenics, they forget that Hitler's purpose for WWII, was to kill and push the Russians to the Urals, so Germany could have oil for its industries and food for its ever growing population.

I recall reading about a German colonel in France, who said that in the Western front they follow the Geneva convention, but in the East it's a massacre on both sides. This is what happens when people's hearts are away from God. We're been spared this so far, thanks to the Godly Foundation given us by the devout Fathers of our country. May Our Lord have mercy on us all because that foundation doesn't exist anymore.

It's traditional to stand when this is played.

 

And after 20 years of Putin's fight against corruption, Russia holds 129 place in Corruption Perceptions Index, together with African countries Mali and Malawi. Great success!

 

Really, America is pushing for war?
Was Trump 'pushing for war' ?
Were the Democrats then or now 'pushing for war' ?

What war?
Why hasn't it started already?
Who's holding America back?

 

Mind you it's called the Corruption Perceptions Index, so whose perception is it and why would they have a perception that has no relation to reality - that is unless they've been influenced by our media's Russophrenia.

The index should be taken from whence it comes.

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that how they go, others will go
and that the lies, that they dost show
will changest that which we do know - Jeannette



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Give it time! Anyone who knows history, can see the similarity today with what went on before WWI and WWII. The difference is that we are the main perpetrator today rather than the defender; and our acts are only seconded by Turkey and Erdogan's demagoguery and actions. That doesn't say much for us believe me.

Looking at it from a higher perspective, one can't commit the killings and atrocities that we have done in the past decades, without some kind of divine retribution. I fear for my nation.

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How does it come, that Putin's friends and relatives become a billioners after he become a president? They all turned out so incredibly talented just after Putin become a president? Miracle.

 

What relatives, I don't know of Putin having any other than his daughters. His friends are those who decided to stay in Russia and pay their taxes rather than run out of the country. From what I read, some who ran to London started negotiating their return to Moscow after the Skripal poisoning. I guess they feel their death might be worth more to the MI6 for its propaganda benefit, than their lives.

 

LOL....none of them want to return to Mafialand Muscovia.....they're quite happy to be in jolly ole England where it isn't-30c...in April.....and if they do return to the asiatic fiefdom....its to visit friends/family and possibly encourage them to make a move out of the Resource Federation.

 

Like is America pushing for a war with Russia, or China or North Korea?
Is this war going to involve nuclear weapons? What do American citizens
think about the possibility their cities will be targeted with multiple nukes?


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