Smooth Transition or Chaos & Obstruction??

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  1. MiaBleu

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    When a fighter takes a fall in a fight and half the people who had money on the fight they have been cheated.

    When a basketball player knowingly misses a shot and shaves point in a game many people are cheated out of there bets. This goes for all sports events.

    When the ballots are rigged against any one candidate that is depriving those who voted fairly of their vote that is called cheating. When you have those who know what is going on and refuse to investigate they are complicit in the crime.

    Why should Trumps behavior be considered any worse than Richard Nixon, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Hillary Clinton who still claims she was cheated. Now we have a guy coming into office who is the head of a crime family. His second in command is a power grabbing black whore from California. Not much improvement there.
     
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    What do you think is the most constructive path forward now?? Things seem to be at a critical mass.......and given the threats posed by domestic extremists..........things could go very badly. & quickly. What do you think is the best way of calming all this down?? IE..... what would you do if you were running things?? ;-)
     
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    It's also interesting that, to get a country OFF the list, there are requirements for the Administration to show Congress that there's been a change in that government, & so forth, which takes at least months; meanwhile, getting a country ON the list, apparently, is a breeze.
     
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    Every schmo who loses a bet, doesn't shoot his bookie. The problem with your argument, mainly, is that it's a bunch of unproven, specious allegations. If that's the standard: OK, yeah, all that stuff about Biden & the Dems is bad, but Trump is a Lizard-person who has an agreement with the Grays to sell Americans for their experiments so, relatively-speaking, not SO bad.

    You have ZERO proof that the election result was inaccurate, other than it's not the one you wanted. More than 50 cases have been dismissed (or w/drawn) by over 80 judges-- and, remember, the Courts is an area your party has focused on, & excelled in, loading w/ like-minded judges for the last generation-- so you have no reasonable excuse to not accept their verdict, as you certainly would if that was the result with some, "liberal," initiative to which you objected.

    While Hilary Clinton may claim, to her deathbed, that she was cheated, nevertheless, she CONCEDED, immediately, & acknowledged Trump's victory; and she, certainly, never suggested that her supporters should try to violently obstruct or overthrow the enacting of the official election results.

    So how does it feel to admit that your candidate, & a sizeable chunk of of your party and, apparently, you, have less respect for the rule of law, and less maturity-- more akin to spoiled children & sore losers, unable to function according to the rules of civil society-- than the Clintons, who you portray as so despicable?
     
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    Trump tested positive for COVID 19 and spent a night at Walter Reed Hospital. Trump told us he was immune and couldn't get it again. There is still the possibility he could get it again. All in all the walls are come closer and there isn't going to be anything Trump will be able to do about it.
     
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    Thousands of Trump supporters are planning a virtual “second inauguration” for President Trump on Jan. 20, the same day as President-elect Joe Biden’s inauguration.

    More than 60,000 people have indicated on Facebook that they plan to attend the event being billed as “Donald J. Trump 2nd Presidential Inauguration Ceremony.”

    There is that possibility that Trump supporters will be gunning for Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi and that might spark a civil war here. This is something that we must fear and pray to God that it doesn't happen.
    Senator Ted Cruz has been a staunch supporter of President Trump. Former Texas Representative Beto O’Rourke says Cruz has his eye on Trump supporters for his own presidential bid. “I’m certain that’s what motivated him on the floor of the senate on Wednesday, to try to overturn this election – that he could claim credit with the Trump crowd.”
    I hope Ted Cruz doesn't ever get elected President. Cruz is such a jerk for this.
     
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    Trump still has staunch loyalists like Ted Cruz on Texas, Steve Daines of Montana who is out for himself as I know. and many others. This country is in a dangerous situation and may get worse not knowing that Trump and his loyalists will do next. Trump should have never been elected President in the first place if we knew then, what we know now.
    Peace be with you.
     
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    I would temporarily remove the crime family and have them investigated. If all the allegations turn out to be true, have them prosecuted. In the meantime have the Vice president take charge and eventually initiate a new vote.
     
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    My goodness. & yet not surprising.


    This is becoming a tinderbox and the Trumkins don't care. They are on a mission based on a crazy delusion. ( A BIG lie that trump used to brainwash them, with persistent repetition. America WHERE are you??
     
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    and if the allegations are false???
     
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    Pete Buttigiek would have made a more decent and calmer president. I was surprised and sad that he pulled out right in the beginning already... probably was told to step aside for Biden. He also was a war veteran, which is a big plus in my eyes. He would have been the first President in the White House with a husband! :cool:
    Maybe next time around, he is still young.
     
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    Agree. I really liked him too. and was disappointed he got out. It would have been so cool to have his husband as ???"first gentleman??" ;-)
     
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    It would take some time to investigate everything, and it would really surprise me, if no crime or fraud was discovered. But to satisfy your curiosity, I would suggest that the crime family would be given an all-expense-paid vacation in Ukraine.
     
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    LOL....... thanks. ;-)
     
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    What can you do Mia when you cannot get anyone to investigate or should I say refuse to investigate. There are countless clips of Democrats protesting the Electoral process in 2016 against Trump but when The Republicans tried to do it this year they are branded as traitors, Nazis, etc. Is this the path to reconciliation.? You have some that are not just satisfied with winning the election but are on a path to destroy any person that disagrees with them. College is suppose to be a bastion of exchanging ideas and debate. The omitting of news at times is the same as censure. I have voted Democrat, Republican and Libertarian in the past. I have bantered with others over my positions and when I won I did not rub it in and when I lost it was "wait until next time" This is the first time that I have seen such destructive hate. Even some in my own family have my wife in tears, almost to the point, another daughter wants to make signs for all the doors " STOP- NO POLITICS ENTER HERE". Which is pretty ironic since our family was involved in the Hatfield - McCoy feud with different brothers taking sides.

    I'm still waiting for answers from people to tell me what Trump has done to them that they hate him and his supporters and want to bring about the downfall of America. He's an oaf and a jackass at times and will be gone in a few days. Lets get on with the next leader we have exalted and begin the tearing down process. Americans favorite pastime.

    What will happen next week I don't know. This is what happens when politicians try and pander to certain groups. Did Trump kill George Floyd? No. So why is he being blamed? Did people in other cities cause the confrontation between police and criminals? No, so why are their storefronts and towns being taken over by radicals? Why are elected officials not establishing law and order when insurrection breaks out? Take what ever force is nessasary to law and order and then after cooler heads prevail a dialogue can be started.
     
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    It is not the point Trump lost the election but the unwillingness and outright dismissal of the obvious fraud committed by some voters. Just because there are not enough votes to change the result in the eyes of a judge does not make it right to just dismiss out of hand. It is judicial laziness. All it does is encourage others in the next election to cheat and have the attitude of "don't worry about it . Nobody's going to check".

    I can see your a Constitutional lightweight so let me enlighten you. Trump and some of his supporters have a right to challenge the electors in the Electoral College and it has been done many times in the past by both parties. Your narrow-mind thinking is insulting, not to me because I will always be terminal immature, but to many Americans. Snobbery is such a disgusting quality.
     
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    I know why the Democrats hate Trump but I don't understand why everyone else hated Trump. He did some great things for America. You would never know that watching the news.
     
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    President Trump on Tuesday said his remarks to supporters just before they stormed the U.S. Capitol last week were "totally appropriate," even as they have become the basis for an article of impeachment against him.
    I think terrorizing the White House regardless on who the President is, I consider uncalled for. It did not need to happen.
     
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    He incited an attempt to overthrow the U.S. Government, by invading the Capitol, in an attempt to stop Congress from carrying out a constitutional function.
     
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    Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol riot are going to face consequences at home. If the make an appearance at the inauguration of Joe Biden, They should face more severe consequences, Regardless of what Donald Trump says or does. Biden will be President and there will be nothing anyone can do about it.
     
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    A top Republican aide resigned due to the fact of the Capitol Hill attack by Trump supporters last Wednesday. Who can blame him?
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    I hear Trump visited the Alamo and when Trump returns and if those that attacked Capitol Hill, will remember the Alamo.
     
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    Yeah...the Battle of the Alamo was known as a Last Stand. Fitting as long as he doesn't stop off in Houston on his way back, where the Battle of San Jacinto
    was subsequently fought, leading to the new Republic of Texas.
     
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    Show me where he incited the violence?

    Hate can blind you from reality.
     
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    Is it possible that Donald Trump may have ruined the Republican Party? The Republican has been with us since March 20, 1854 and that's a long time. They call themselves the Grand Old Party (GOP) and the Democrats were here first since January 8, 1828. I believe the Republican Party will recover from all this like Watergate in 1972. They were going to impeach President Richard Nixon but resigned in 1974 and his successor Gerald Ford lost in 1976 to Jimmy Carter. That's you history lesson for the day.
    There was also Custer's Last Stand. You have to wonder if Trump ever visited there.
     

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