Study Shows Significant Link Between Mercury and Autism

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

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    Which is a good thing.

    It greatly decreases the risk of contaminated and "spoiled" vaccinations. Those risks are very real, and they are proven, and they are well documented.

     
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  2. Patricio Da Silva

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    Nope.
     
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    No.

    I gave you the specific facts about vaccines and what they contain. You are making claims about a linke between mercury and autism. BUT you haven't even supported your claim that children are exposed to mercuury through vaccines!!

    And, I pointed out that there is plenty of mercury in our environment in forms and places that DOES affect children1

    Stories from people can only be relevant through actual investigation of cases and justification for seeing them as statistically relevant concerning the problem at hand.

    Your stories do not meet either measure.

    Why do you think that video is "good"???

    I cited for you VERY CLEAR statements from the CDC on that question.

    That is the branch that does investigations such as the one you want.
     
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    Huge longitudinal studies have established there is no connection between vaccines and autism.

    https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/do-vaccines-cause-autism#2
     
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    Studies have established autism is not caused by vaccines.
     
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    Longitudinal studies have established childhood vaccines do not cause autism. You'd think that would count for something.

    Had your first shot yet?
     
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    Yes. I even posted a thread about it. Had it yesterday at 2:30 PM. Only side effect, my arm is a little sore. My wife had it at 7:30 AM yesterday, same thing. A bit of a sore arm, nothing else.
     
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    Have you considered the longitudinal studies that concluded vaccines aren't associated with autism?
     
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    Good stuff. Maybe we can convince the anti-vaccers to get immunized.
     
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    No reason to waste your time with anti-vaxxers. You can throw whatever study you can find at them saying otherwise, and they will never budge. Like all conspiracy theories, their beliefs are unshakable and unrelated to evidence or lack thereof.
     
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    Dude - you are doubling down on what I have demonstrated is GARBAGE!!!

    You post all those vidios of sad, sad parents. And, I'm sad about them, too.

    But, the CDC is pointing out that they didn't get the compounds you fear.

    AND, they are pointing out that even if they did, autism would not be the result.

    AND, if you are worried about mercury there are MANY other ways for children to be exposed to mercury and you have excluded ZERO of those.

    What you have is NOT AN ARGUMENT. It's no better than cheap inuendo that has already been proven false.

    Why are you asking me to listen to sad parents AGAIN???
     
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    No you haven't. You just have the attitude that you have. I might as well just post stuff for the viewers to see.
     
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    False.

    I pointed out specific reasons that what you are posting has NOTHING AT ALL to do with scienc based medicine, or science in general, nor does anything you have presented alter the findings of epidemiologists nor do your claims affect what the CDC and FDA have found.

    In fact, we still have you and your antivax buddies claiming children are encountering mercury in vaccines when vaccines for childhood disease have had mercury removed for years.

    Beyond that, it's crystal clear what is meant by the FACT that the removal of mercury has not led to a decrease in autism diagnoses (after extracting data for milder versions of the syndrome that weren't previously diagnosed).

    Nor have other reformulations resulted in detectable numbers of negative results of any kind.


    You just plain have absolutely NO data to support your idea.

    YOU want truely sad parents to believe that a decision they made CAUSED their children's autism!!

    I can't think of any false accusation that could possibly be more disgusting than YOUR messages to grieving parents.
     
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    https://search.proquest.com/openvie...87330cf41855/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=41339
    Seriously, consider these sources:

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/pdf/cdcstudiesonvaccinesandautism.pdf

    https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(13)00144-3/pdf?ext=.pdf

    Vaccines aren't causing autism.

    Years ago, looking back, I'm sure some of my students were on the spectrum, but weren't diagnosed. Ditto ADHD.
     
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    Research is going on all over the world. You'd have to control government everywhere to set up a huge conspiracy. Longitudinal studies with many participants established no increased incidence of autism in vaccinated children. Thimerosal isn't used today.
    Covering up here doesn't stop the EU, Japan, Canada, the UK and others from doing research. The conspiracy would have to include the industrialized world.
     
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    The Lizards are everywhere. Thank god Alien technology which can navigate the galaxies and confounds the CIA and NASA can't do anything to hack brave bloggers and their i-Phones
     
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    It’s an anti vax video on a clickbait site :roll:

    Did they have a mitochondrial defect?
    https://www.who.int/vaccine_safety/committee/topics/mitochondrial_diseases/Jun_2008/en/
     
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    Dangerous, yes.
    The Mayo Clinic:

    "Autism spectrum disorder has no single known cause. Given the complexity of the disorder, and the fact that symptoms and severity vary, there are probably many causes. Both genetics and environment may play a role.
    • Genetics. Several different genes appear to be involved in autism spectrum disorder. For some children, autism spectrum disorder can be associated with a genetic disorder, such as Rett syndrome or fragile X syndrome. For other children, genetic changes (mutations) may increase the risk of autism spectrum disorder. Still other genes may affect brain development or the way that brain cells communicate, or they may determine the severity of symptoms. Some genetic mutations seem to be inherited, while others occur spontaneously.
    • Environmental factors. Researchers are currently exploring whether factors such as viral infections, medications or complications during pregnancy, or air pollutants play a role in triggering autism spectrum disorder."
    Risk factors:

    "The number of children diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder is rising. It's not clear whether this is due to better detection and reporting or a real increase in the number of cases, or both.

    Autism spectrum disorder affects children of all races and nationalities, but certain factors increase a child's risk. These may include:
    • Your child's sex. Boys are about four times more likely to develop autism spectrum disorder than girls are.
    • Family history. Families who have one child with autism spectrum disorder have an increased risk of having another child with the disorder. It's also not uncommon for parents or relatives of a child with autism spectrum disorder to have minor problems with social or communication skills themselves or to engage in certain behaviors typical of the disorder.
    • Other disorders. Children with certain medical conditions have a higher than normal risk of autism spectrum disorder or autism-like symptoms. Examples include fragile X syndrome, an inherited disorder that causes intellectual problems; tuberous sclerosis, a condition in which benign tumors develop in the brain; and Rett syndrome, a genetic condition occurring almost exclusively in girls, which causes slowing of head growth, intellectual disability and loss of purposeful hand use.
    • Extremely preterm babies. Babies born before 26 weeks of gestation may have a greater risk of autism spectrum disorder.
    • Parents' ages. There may be a connection between children born to older parents and autism spectrum disorder, but more research is necessary to establish this link."
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/autism-spectrum-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20352928
    But the longitudinal studies of huge numbers of kids show no increased incidence of autism for vaccinated students.
    So, who's behind the anti-vaxxers?
    Where did you get that reasoning? Why do you think a Goldilocks solution makes sense?
    Just get it.
     
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    They have to be deprogrammed. Anti-vaxxer conspiracy theories they believe are sold to them as a manipulation of American government and society. They're gobsmacked when you ask them how we managed to silence scientists in the UK, EU, Canada, Japan, China, etc. A conspiracy that complicated would almost certainly have fallen apart.
     
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    Your relying on reason and logic to get anti-vaxers to the point where they realize that. It won't work unfortunately. All conspiracy theories, anti-vaxers included fall over on that point i.e. the sheer size/scale needed for the alleged conspiracy to work. The fact that millions of people have to be 'in on it' for their conspiracies to succeed, all the while working with superhuman synchronicity so that nothing ever goes wrong, anywhere in their grand scheme is always conveniently hand waved away by true believers.

    Meanwhile in the real world government bureaucracies run like the well oiled machines they are - not.
     
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