The Great Reset

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  1. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I talked to someone over thanksgiving and they said maybe, with the great reset, they are looking for negative interest rates.

    I'd like to take back that I would be better off with the great reset. Obviously, this is not in my best interest.
     
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    One World Government. Haves vs Have nots. Reparations. Confiscation. Redistribution.
     
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    Just how Marxism ends up working in the end.
     
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    Marxism never indebted anybody. You are WAYYYYY off target.

    Try harder ...
     
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    Only removed debt...

     
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    Trump just spent more than any other President in history has in 4 years

    the crash is coming, as soon as the money stops, the economy goes - will republicans in the Senate stop the money flow, maybe..... don't think you will like the results of that though
     
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    They want us all 'life renters' and 'life debtors'. The worst thing for a Reset is land owning people with zero debt. They need to keep us in a state of perpetual terror and powerlessness, by ensuring the majority of our income goes to rent/debt. That's the only way they can control so many people. Keep reducing and reducing our personal autonomy.
     
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    Weird.... So the stimulus spending was all Trump??? Good to know!
     
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    where did you get that from what I said?

    dems approved the stimulus, Republicans refuse too - I am not sure if Republicans will continue this for the next 4 years or not, that has yet to be seen

    the stimulus and the FED dumping $$$ into the economy was the only thing to keeping it afloat under Trump if that is what you're asking
     
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    Do you understand that you are in a Debate Forum. One liners just wont do.

    Go pester someone else ...
     
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    And debating entails responding with a factual and deliberate response. Not a mere "Marxism never indebted anybody. You are WAYYYYY off target." with no substance to your response.

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    Dems are strong arming and are refusing to negotiate. Republicans have nearly came up to their 2.2 trillion dollars but are unwilling to agree on the additional riders that have NOTHING to do with COVID. Just remove the GD riders so people can get help!

    And in response to your "Trump just spent more than any other President in history has in 4 years", this is a liberal talking point that takes ZERO into account that COVID was the primary reason for the massive increase in spending!
     
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    You know, the US constitution also maintained existing debt when it went into effect. Just an FYI.
     
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    What's the big worry? obama 3 is around the corner and your all going to fix everything like the last time you had power. The biden puppet show begins Jan. 20,2021. I just hope Trump spent or spends all the money so you guys can't do the ridiculous things that you want.
     
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    YOUR LOT IN LIFE

    Pray tell, how does a Constitution "maintain debt"?

    All countries have debt. The debate is how we employ that debt to a better good.

    And I figure the Replicants aint so good at it. But, neither are the Dems - whose intentions are better. The Replicants can think only of business-business-business and profits-profits-profits. An showing the world how they "made it".

    The Communists proved that happiness is not available if everybody has the same income. But the Social Democrats in Europe are showing that if the government provides the basics, then people live better. And feel better about their lot in life.

    Time will tell if Americans come around to the same notion. But, if they wish to remain blind to the shortcomings of the present economic-system, then they're in for a painful existence. The US needs badly a more equitable distribution of Wealth.

    The present distribution within the US population (from here):

    That distribution is wholly unfair. And it is going to lead the US-population into a lot of trouble sooner or later ...
     
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    Blah, blah, blah and more blather ...
     
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    What? I should take the next administration seriously ? I will relish all their failures.
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    When I said debt I meant the personal debt of each individual. I'm speaking of US Constitution, Article 6.
    Article. VI. - Debts
    All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this
    Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under
    the Confederation. ​

    So, you know, that might happen under a great reset too.
     
  19. LafayetteBis

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    Then you are in for a Big Surprise. Biden is not a fool like Trump, a jerk who inherited megabucks then - in a stroke of luck - invested in New York City property during a period in which prices skyrocketed.

    He had a good bit of luck. Anybody lucky enough can do what he did - invest in real-estate and make a fortune. And many do!

    The real problem is not Trump and neither is it his fortune, but how he got elected. It's that America does not want to fix a distortion of its voting system that was conceived in 1804 - one that falsifies the outcome of a presidential election. The popular-vote is and must be the only determinant of any election to public-office! The Electoral Vote DOES NOT REPRESENT THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE. It represents an outcome based upon manipulated values of Electoral College votes. Or, as said here:
    “One vote in Wyoming counts for 43 votes in California ...so it’s not close to one person, one vote.”


    But some people cannot understand how that falsification destroys our democracy. Because the Real Electoral Voice of the American people is warped* and twerps-like-Trump (who are dangerous-people) can get elected to the highest office of the nation by means of a warped Electoral College vote.

    'Nuff said? I doubt it. Many have been saying the same thing but nobody in America is listening. What do we do about that? We introduce in all states the necessity to teach Civics well. Meaning you don't get a degree if you cannot pass a Civics Exam (and it's the same exam for all citizens.)

    Google this: "how badly is Civics taught in America?" ...

    *See here: https://philpapers.org/rec/HARTMO-51
     
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    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I certainly agree with your ideas about a lot in life. Hopefully, the Americans will see the benefits of a minimum standard of living first hand having lived through the Coronavirus shut down, perhaps twice.
     
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    I doubt it, Republicans still control the Senate, and they do not want to help the working class
     
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    Typical one-liner nonsense that afflicts a DEBATE Forum ...
     
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    WHAT IS "AMERICA" ALL ABOUT?

    Possible but doubtful. Americans are simplistically manipulated by TV. If they see it there, they believe it.

    Civics is a subject that should be taught Primarily in high-school - each and every year. With workshops!

    Then, maybe, Americans might understand that politics is NOT just about two different parties. But about the way America should be managed as a nation of three principal political entities: The President, Congress and the Supreme Court. Each of these "entities" should and must be treated in depth in the light of What Is Best for the American people as a whole?

    And not the cursory attention they is given in high-school "Civics courses" today. The primary subject is Who Gets What and Why? For instance, "What is the purpose of a national-government expenditure that more than half of which goes to the DoD!?!"

    When a people know how to address such questions, then their representatives know how to debate and apply them. And the question is not about just Government expenditures of "who gets what?" It's far more profound.

    It's about, "What do we want as a nation of people?" T
    hat is NOT an easy question ever to answer. The answers are highly complex. But first we must ASK IT ... ?
     
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    One of the key-questions I would propose is Why not forbid anyone with a political-background (party-oriented) to become a member of the Supreme Court. Is it a "prize" for past-services made on behalf of the PotUS?

    Because what has happened to the SC is that presidents have tried to manipulate it in just-that-manner ... !
     
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    I would put it this way: What is wrong worst about America is not the car but the driver!

    The American people haven't the foggiest notion about how a Democracy should function. They THINK that it's a matter of either of Two Parties in power, and that's all.

    Well, it is JUST THAT PROBLEM that has brought Uncle Sam to the point where he is today. He does not know where he is going because he has no Principle Objectives. Or even a desire to consider the question of National Objectives such that a people could accept and adhere to them.

    And if there is anything I learned in the businesses where I've worked it's that that question is the only key-to-success. Without an answer (top-to-bottom) and a willful-orientation to that question by its people, no entity on earth can be successful and thus content with its existence. And especially not humans ... !
     
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