The Push To Discredit HCQ

You have publicly denounced Dr. Immanuel. I assumed you would have looked into her background. Did you skip that step?.

 

That's not true. Do you actually read these threads before you post here?

"The Lancet paper that halted global trials of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 because of fears of increased deaths has been retracted after a Guardian investigation found inconsistencies in the data.

The lead author, Prof Mandeep Mehra, from the Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston, decided to ask the Lancet for the retraction because he could no longer vouch for the data’s accuracy.

Related: How were medical journals and WHO caught out over hydroxychloroquine?

The journal’s editor, Richard Horton, said he was appalled by developments. “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency,” he told the Guardian."
THE GUARDIAN, Covid-19: Lancet retracts paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials, By Sarah Boseley Health editor, June 5, 2020.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials/ar-BB152Zo4

 

And even that does not endorse the use of HCQ

 

Please inform us more

 

Still not providing evidence supporting the use of HCQ

 

This should be interesting:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01695-w

The way it looks like is that the data came from the company of one of the co-authors, Surgisphere, but that the data cannot be verified, because of patient confidentiality, or maybe because Desai, the company owner, just made the data up.

However, this is not some sinister attempt to suppress HCQ, it is a tale of over-ambition, probably driven by the desire for career advancement, monetary profit or funding.

It should be noted that the problems with the dataset was discovered by peer scientists. Therefore, the idea that science is self-correcting stands.

 

So you think success of trails relies solely on randomized double blinded studies? ROFL!!!! So, you are officially an expert on trials? Surely I'm not, but I laugh at your assessment. About 10 of our current trial are double blinded, FYI! And those are generally Phase III trials.

Seriously dude. Lets just call a mulligan and call it good. You are seriously out of your league.

 

Yes I do

As does the vast majority of medical practitioners and until those trials show definitive evidence supporting the use of HCQ then it cannot be recommended as a treatment
Even the link you provided earlier did not support the widespread use

 

Apparently you are looking at a different link?

I'm cool with you pointing out how ineffective it has been.

 

So, if you are expert in clinical trials, you should be able to agree that the original data set from Dr. Raoult, on which the original Trump comments on HCQ were based, is meaningless, because they didn't have any controls.

 

Let me know when you can find a randomized double blind study that says HCQ provides a benefit.

 

Based on your response.... You absolutely have no clue. It's a clinical trial. Do you know how chemotherapy was finally tested??? BTW, it's a product of mustard gas!

No point responding. I honestly have no patience for the clueless.

 

From your link

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1198743X20302962

 

If you see all my post, I absolutely stated I am no expert, however I work with a BUNCH of experts. I have no PHD, but many of my colleagues do.

 

Which chemotherapy are we talking about here?
And having a drug undergoing a clinical trial is not an endorsement for widespread use. Quite frankly any other drug that has this poor a outcome in trials would have been abandoned by now

 

It was more than an "attempt to suppress HCQ". The Fake Science published by both Lancet and the NEJM did suppress the use of HCQ. It is an example of irrational hatred for Trump undermining the integrity of medical science.

THE GUARDIAN, Covid-19: Lancet retracts paper that ***halted hydroxychloroquine trials***, By Sarah Boseley Health editor, June 5, 2020.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials/ar-BB152Zo4

Fake Science and its apologists are a serious threat to public health.

 

And if you read any of my post, I stated at least twice. but thanks for playing.

 

Translation

No I do not have the academic training to understand how to critique research

But that was obvious in what you have been writing here

I suggest if you would like to learn more then start reading the posts of those members who do know

 

AAaaaaand you STLL have not provided research supporting the widespread use of HCQ

 

Chloroquine/Hydroxychloroquine PREVENTION of Covid19

Phase 1, irrelevant to me
Phase 2, irrelevant to me
Phase 3, irrelevant to me
Regulators reviewing trial results, irrelevant to me

Regulators approving/disapproving a drug for prevention/treatment, RELEVANT to me.

My question to you; Did the FDA approve Hydroxychloroquine as a prevention drug for Covid19?

A simple YES or NO?

 

Is it your position that clinical trails are required before drugs that have been proven safe for decades can be used by physicians to treat patients during a pandemic?

 

Maybe instead of posting dozens and dozens of times lecturing others, you should just refuse to take the drug and let the rest of decide for ourselves.

 

Yes it is and that is also the position of almost the entire medical fraternity

 

Your link didn't work. Did you read the nature article I cited?

Show evidence that hatred of Trump is undermining science, or take it back. These are just your allegations. There is no evidence this was political, rather than based on misguided ambition.