Today: Georgia Senatorial runoff elections / in 15 days Biden/Harris will be inaugurated

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  1. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    The Easy Answer?

    Trump was HATED that much.
     
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    So you intentionally vote to lower your income and your standard of living just because you don’t like the guy running?? You do understand your voting only for the guys POLICIES right?
    I mean your not voting for the guy to be your buddy. Just wow...
     
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    Hello, newly registered December 3, 2019!!!

    I would like to order a nice pair of warm socks. In XXXL, thanks. I have very big feet, they love nice, warm socks!

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    We all should be paying higher income taxes. It is unsustainable and irresponsible to continuously run deficits even when the economy is growing robustly.
     
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    Our deficits couldn’t possibly be caused by our government officials overspending, actually wasting our tax money could it?
     
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    No, they could not. Our deficits are structural; we have demanded more government than we have been willing to pay for.
     
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    The solution is less government.
     
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    Less government would certainly help, but the fact remains that we demand too much and pay too little. To say "less government" is the whole solution is just to dodge the question.
     
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    It might not be easy, but it is the only answer.

    We need to ask less of government, in order to get less government..
     
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  12. Jack Hays

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    OK. What are you willing to do without?
     
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    Dept of Education would be a great place to start.

    Dept of Energy can go, too.

    Let the free market sort this stuff out.
     
  14. Jack Hays

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    The budgets of those two departments combined are right around $100B. The U.S. deficit in 2019 was about $1T. You're one tenth of the way there. And you really want the private sector in charge of our nuclear weapons?
     
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    Number 1: Politicians should not receive lifetime pay for a position they no longer hold.

    Stop paying welfare for every child born.
    At the very least put a limit on the amount of kids you can have supported if you receive government assistance.

    Mandatory drug tests if you receive welfare.
    Test positive and you are banned for life.

    Illegals should receive no welfare whatsoever, free housing, free food stamp card, and free medical just for entering our country.
    They should be discouraged, not encouraged from entering the US illegally.
    There’s a lot more in this area alone.

    I agree that people in need should receive help, but our welfare system is the most abused worldwide.
     
  16. Jack Hays

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    Members of congress do not receive "lifetime pay." They vest in the system after five years and receive the same retirement benefits as federal employees.
    The rest of your items are peanuts in relation to the federal budget and deficit.
     
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    You asked “what am I willing to do without?”

    Yes that’s a pretty way to explain away the fact that they receive 80% of their salary for life:

    https://www.investopedia.com/articl...s-retirement-pay-compares-overall-average.asp

    Also those peanuts are only a start, I could type on for days the waste that we know of.
     
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    A small minority (30 years' service IIRC) are eligible for 80%, and don't forget that like all federal employees they contribute to their own retirement via payroll deductions.
    The bottom line is that you will never effectively address our structural deficits without more tax revenue.
     
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    You have my attention, what do you suggest?
     
  20. Jack Hays

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    As I have already posted, we all need to pay higher income taxes.
     
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    Just recently you received Tax cuts - which benefitted mainly the better off. In giving you those tax cuts Trump effectively reduced your countries income by that amount. The only way for those tax cuts to benefit the US is for you all to spend that extra money on goods manufactured in US factories, thus producing personal workers income tax, company tax etc. etc. How many will do that is the question. How many will save it in case of recession - due, I reckon - in a year or two. How many will pay more off their credit card debts.How many will use it for extra payments on the mortgage or to update/upgrade their houses. A holiday they deserve. And how many will spend 20% more for an item made in the US than a cheaper items made elsewhere. Tax cuts are risks which don't always come off.
     

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