Trump on Covid death toll: 'It is what it is'

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    We asked Democrats to clean up Republican **** ups twice in the last quarter century already. 2020 is shaping up to be the same.
     
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    LOL...

     
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    You should hold yourself to a higher standard than an internet troll.
     
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    So, as long as whoever answers the question with an evasion, you're ok with it? So much for honesty.
     
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    The general tone of "it is what it is" shows a lack of empathy. Nobody expects him to have all the answers and produce a vaccine or treatment from thin air, but that's not the problem. He has misspoken and misstepped so many times during this crisis that it's almost impossible to be shocked by anything he says now.
     
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    That's a **** translation again.

    I expect my leaders to be able to respond to tough questions about the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans with more than a "it is what it is" dismissal.
     
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    Nah... I would refer you to the Fauci approach... Dissembling, and using that dissembling to distract from not having actually addressed the stupid question from Sanjay when asked. See the post from Mr T above. That is the approach of a democrat. How do we know? maybe the many glowing, "loving" emails Fauci sent to the Hillary team years ago....

    Which, frankly, has nothing to do with democrats being honest, clearly that isn't a condition found within them. or compassionate, reference their use of the pandemic to enact the most draconian measures to dictate to folks, or being realistic. That simply isn't the case. Now, had you suggested smarmy, sure. Authoritarian and smug, sure. prone to flights of fancy to distract, sure.
     
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    Perhaps to you, but in what way? What in that question required the man to be effusive and empathetic? Given the format there couldn't have been a "correct" answer that folks, like you, would have accepted from him. The question was the method, nothing more. it wouldn't have mattered if Trump had gone on and on about the misery, because he'd be responsible for it in your view. He couldn't be cavalier, because you'd call him insensitive, so he chose a middle ground, and y'all lost your collective shyte. And you're still dinging the guy for the answer.

    Now, because I'm not a president, I would have simply asked the reporter the question, what have you, or your news organization done to improve the crisis. direct, put the guy on the spot, and demonstrate just how superfluous the guy is. I don't see why presidents coddle stupid press reporters, or why they tolerate playing stump the chump with folks who's only intent is to create click bait for their subscription holders. It's stupid. So why engage?
     
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    LOL... no, I don't believe you for a minute. You're perfectly fine with.. "I don't recall"... "on the advice of my lawyer"... or other similar responses of your heroes when asked tough questions....
     
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    I get you: Trump could do nothing to please some. I waa commenting on the OP comment which would be something I say to friends, not something I would say to any group of people I were leading.

    I do find it curious that those most offended by Trump's response also seem to be the ones who would vehemently disagree with the real measures required to deal with this.
     
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    Well, I'm not the only person responding in this thread so I'm sure it's not just me. I don't believe anyone is asking that he break down in tears and sob over the photos of the deceased. But, to question why he should be empathetic speaks volumes about how you value human life (and death) in a situation that most likely could have been avoided or, at least, mitigated.

    Correct. There is no "right" answer. However, there are countless other answers he could have given that showed he is taking the matter seriously, cares about the spread and resulting deaths, understands the economic hardships as a result of the lack of treatment and/or vaccines and that the average person simply cannot afford to sit at home day after day in some kind of suspended state waiting for the country to reopen.

    You are under some kind of impression that you can speak for me. You cannot.

    "It is what it is" is NOT anywhere near a middle ground. It's insensitive and inappropriate given the situation.

    The reporter and his company are NOT leaders of the free world. He has no obligation, authority or responsibility to find a solution to this pandemic. All of that rests on the POTUS. His job is to make sure the right people are doing what needs to be done to resolve things.

    President Trump has a duty to lead his country through this pandemic by providing real information in a timely manner and put forth some sense of hope and recovery. If he cannot handle himself in an interview about the hard questions, he applied for and was hired for the wrong position. And given that, he should stop agreeing to interviews if he doesn't like being interviewed or can't handle being questioned.
     
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    The most UNWISE President we ever had, mainly due to his narcissistic personality.

    The signs and symptoms of NPD perfectly matches the President.......”Yep, that’s him!”

    And during bad economic/social times, the worst personality traits to lead a country.

    Thus, all of the above, is the sole reason why a majority will get rid of him.
     
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    Unfortunately for you, Fauci has a much higher approval rating than Trump (which is, incidentally eating away at Trump). Why could that be? Maybe because Fauci has the credibility of science behind him, instead of blowing hot air, like Trump?
     
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    No that is your opinion.
     
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    LOL... like? who cares? What has Fauci done other than to sow the seeds of fear? I mean, I know democratic eat that with a spoon,....

    I'm not likely to be converted, Fauci is still the architect of AIDS persistence in the world. It's hard to forget. His "practice" is to not actually solve or cure, but the "manage" so it makes lots of money for his backers. That isn't science, btw. It's Eugenics.
     
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    ...did you just imply that Fauci is the reason that AIDs has spread around the world?

    The **** is wrong with you?
     
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    Did you read that or could you quote where I did? I said his process was managing it, not curing or treating it. That doesn't imply anything, those are simply the facts. I characterized his approach as well. The spread of AIDs is it's own beast. Fauci is simply the mind behind the approach, or has said so in public which he's given credit for.
     
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    And who exactly would Fauci's money backers be? You keep coming up with those accusations, without ever showing any evidence.
     
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    You said his effect on AIDs was ****ing "eugenics," what the **** else did you think that would imply?
     
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    I called the spade the spade. Why does it concern you? His management process (manage not solve or cure) is an effort not to solve the problem, but to live with it. Lots of folks would consider that intentional. It flows from Eugenics. The map and it's dots are clear to see.
     
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    Yes, you directly implied if not explicitly stated that Fauci is responsible for the spread of AIDs.

    So again, I ask, what the **** is wrong with you?
     
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    LOL... The better question is why would you support him? Given his record? As a note, not having actually dealt with something in a way that cured a disease, and having formulated a "live with it" strategy certainly wouldn't satisfy you where WuFlu is concerned, and you have said as much. Why wouldn't you extend your same ferocity you have with WuFlu to AIDs? I mean, you've suggested all kinds of heinous things about anyone who contradicts your extremism there. And yet, here, you're all for allowing it just to be managed. I'd say that says way more about you than me.
     
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    What you have to say is beneath contempt.
     
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    If the shoe fits you....
     
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    Do you not have a response to post #136?
     

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