Trump should be denied intelligence briefings, Schiff says

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  1. mdrobster

    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    For the 1k time, 2 Republican senate committees found evidence of Russia interferring on Trump's behalf. If you want to argue against recorded history, take it to the conspiracy section.
     
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    So what! Trump could not control what the Russians did, any more than Biden could control the Chinese or Russians working to elect him (if they did). We don't want our presidential candidates making deals with foreign countries (well, too late for that for the Biden family) to get them to propagandize in their favor. That's collusion. But if Russia or China have a favorite, they are going to do whatever they can to get that person elected whether the candidate wants their help or not. That's what happened in 2016, and no doubt, that also happened in 2020. I would expect China would want their business partner to get elected, so whatever they might have done wouldn't surprise me.

    That is just a fact of life, and we have got to learn to live with it. This is a country that enjoys the freedom of speech, and so stopping that foreign interference is fine if we can, but difficult. Best thing that can happen is to expose it. But otherwise, we need to stop freaking out about it.
     
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    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Schiff is one of the biggest scumbags in D.C. and that is saying a lot. He actually had a fundraiser hosted by Ukrainian arms dealers and had the nerve to lie to America about Trump Russia Collusion and having "hard evidence" for years, yet never produced a damn thing. Anyone taking that lech's word is a fool.
     
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    They also interfered on Hillary's behalf by organizing an anti-Trump protest.

    Russia's whole "interference" was $400K spent on Facebook ads. Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton spent over $1 BILLION and Trump about half. Anyone thinking Russia's $400K mattered is a fool.
     
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    mother Russia invests wisely, their election interference was effective due to quality and not quantity.
     
  6. liberalminority

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    disagree, schiff knows to never mess with mother nature, mother in-laws and, mother freaking Ukrainians.
     
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    Indeed. I think trump would try to sell what he knows to whoever would pay.
     
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    I think most agree, no reason for Trump to have access to classified info, it's only there so the current President can ask prev Presidents advice, Trump has not helped Biden during the transition, so zero chance of him helping later, thus no reason for him to have such access and of course Trump is a security risk
     
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    Trump would also be at risk of bragging about what he knows to impress people
     
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    Hostile transfer of power.
     
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    You say "so what" to 2 republican Senate investigations on this that found Russian interference with the 2016 elections. Again this is recorded history !!

    Calling it a Russian hoax in one post, then when confronted, your reply is so what. Now you are making accusations with Biden.

    Talk is cheap !!
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    Please let me know when you post something with facts :)
     
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    My guess is that former presidents may have insight into a particular situation and may be able to offer advice to the sitting president. With Trump, it is a waste of time as he won't even cooperate when he should and opens the possibilty of secret information getting into the wrong hands. As someone pointed out, not a punishment, but makes sense as many things have had to and will have to be adjusted for Trump for national security reasons. Sad. I honestly hoped Trump would be a better president.
     
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    For the 1 millionth time No American colluded nor coordinated with Russia during the 2016 election....Per Robert Mueller. Now I don't give a rats ass that russian bought facebook ads and I guarantee you they weren't the only country. Please stop acting like the committee found Trump coordinated or colluded with Russia, we spent 80 million and 2 years of investigation by the countries number one investigator to find out that not only did Trump not but no American did.
     
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    For the 1M +1 times

    https://time.com/5572821/donald-trump-russia-contacts/
     
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    Did you read that list and see how silly that is? A foreign government want to meet with a candidate yet turned down over and over and over. A senator met with an Ambassador, oh the horror. A lawyer that ended up turning on Trump couldn't find one thing to tie Trump to russian even after his supposed multiple contacts. Are you so niave that you think that presidential candidates staffs don't talk to foreign governments? Do you wonder why Russia wasn't a blip on the dems radar until Hilary bought Fake Russian intelligence against Trump? Do you think Biden associates talked with people from China or any other foreign country citizen in the past 10 months? Does that mean Biden colluded with them? What you posted was a list that literally doesn't include any charge of collusion nor coordination. I know your hurt by the fact that Mules investigated all this and said NO AMERICAN COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA but to act oblivious to this is getting a little old after four years of trying.
     
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    You don't. Clearly, as you support the same said intel to be provided to traitors and Chinese spy assets like Schiff et al....
     
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    I have no clue what this means, and please, don't bother to explain.
     
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    Go argue against recorded history with someone else.
     
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    Like I said, Mules cleared it up for you yet you still spout false propaganda. You are right for the millionth and 1 times you've been wrong, might be a record call Guinness.
     
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    We know the Russians tried to influence the election in 2016, and they probably did in 2020. I suspect the Chinese did too.

    But the 2-year Mueller investigation was aimed at the idea that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians, and that was a hoax bought and paid for by the Clinton campaign. It was based upon lies and even false statements under oath.

    I think the Russians and others are likely to try to influence our elections every time we have one. Our best way to counter that is to expose it when it happens. But let’s not freak out about it. And we must never again allow a campaign to do to the country what the Clinton campaign did to it.
     
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    You want to argue with recorded history, do it with someone else.
     
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    If you don’t want to play, stay off the field.
     
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    Perhaps he is making the case for the Dems with his last minute appointment to the NSA in Michael Ellis.
     
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