Trump Smacked Down by SCOTUS Bigtime on LGBT Rights Issue

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  1. ProgressivePatriot

    ProgressivePatriot Well-Known Member

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    It's a great day LGBT people who no longer have to fear discrimination in theworkplace

    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/scot...=com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail&.tsrc=newsroom

    Supreme Court Says LGBTQ Employees Are Protected By Civil Rights Employment Statutes

    It warms my heart to know that Trump is having apoplexy right now. Not only did his administration fight against this, but also, his own appointee wrote the opinion for the majority

     
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    In related news:


    https://www.rollcall.com/2020/06/15...ision-could-shake-up-other-laws-and-lawsuits/



    Next up

    https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progr...s-lgbtq-nondiscrimination-health-protections/

     
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    Update:
    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/06...ping-supreme-court-ruling-favor-lgbtq-rights/
    The religious right is seriously flipping out over the Supreme Court ruling in favor of LGBTQ rights

    Good ****ing God! What is wrong with these people???
     
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    Of course, it seems like you are not analyzing this from a legal or constitutional perspective, but from a political one.

    Regardless of what you feel should be best policy, the court was wrong here in the sense that they did not do their jobs and uphold the legal principles that they are entrusted to uphold.

    There is nothing in the law or Constitution that truly and appropriately justifies taking away these rights from people.

    Why do we need to make this all about pro or anti-LBGT? Is that the limit to your mental comprehension?
     
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    I don't know where you get this idea the trumps against gay people. He's the only president that spoke out in support of us during his campaign.

    Justice gorsuch who was the Trump appointee voted in favor of this.
     
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    Where do you get the idea that anything that he says is worth a hill of beans? He'll say anything that he thinks people want to hear at any given time. It's his actions since then that should concern you

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/nati...0200619-s6byvyeanjhd3oebbcq47nlsvi-story.html

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ng-first-president-us-homphobia-a7997401.html

    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2020/04...ys-want-recruit-kids-deliver-easter-blessing/

    And I doubt that he thought that Gorsuch would have done what he did
     
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    I don't have that idea.

    I'm just pointing out that in words every president proceeding him every candidate proceeding them has been more anti-lgbt than him.

    his actions show no animosity toward LGBT.


    A few hatchet jobs from opinion blog that don't amount to anything. Show me policy not opinions for far-left blogs please.

    I seriously doubt he read gorsuch's mind and I seriously doubt he's a soothsayer. He's still a trump appointee.
     
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    Actually I will give you this much. In his heart and soul he doesn't give a crap one way or the other. He is an empty shell of a sub human being with no core values. Others may have been anti gay at a point in time, but people like Obama and Clinton evolved over time. The other possibility is that they knew that advocating for gay rights a decade ago was political suicide so if they did not voice a full throat advocacy for LGBT people I don't fault them. They never attended rally with bigots calling for the killing of gays. l
     
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    excellent that's all I've ever wanted.

    I don't want to be some party hat that demands my loyalty through all time because they gave me cookies.
    I don't care that you don't like Trump and when you people start blathering about what piece of s*** is how he is horrible in a demon and literally Hitler I tune out.

    I understand you don't like the guy. I think it's mostly a tribal thing because you can't come up with anything but whatever reasons you have yours.

    And I don't believe for a second Obama and Clinton evolved I think exactly like Donald Trump they didn't give a crap they were just saying whatever they had to do to get elected.

    That's why these scumbags aren't my heroes.

    So **** off until your equality is popular. I don't fault them any more than I don't fault Republicans they did the same thing.

    Neither one of them is my Ally.
    But they do seems to Ally what Islam bigots that actually kill gay people.
     
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    I call the Chicago Tribune a commie rag. It certainly isn't policy. I'm not reading anything from that trash site.

    I don't care about their propaganda. if you want to link to direct policy then go for it if you want to text I'll consider reading it.

    You're in denial. Bill Clinton George Bush Barack Obama Al Gore and Joe Biden are all vile scum equally.

    You are the only one pretending that because you supported them there somehow better people.

    I do not care about who Donald Trump is that's not why I vote for presidents.

    So you can wax on about how your presidential candidates walked on water were Jesus Christ incarnate that reality only exists in your mind. As a human being goes I view them all equally.
     
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    To a point you are right. The difference is that Obama and Clinton may have misrepresented there positions by not supporting same sex marriage , but they never spoke out against LGBT rights in general. Trump, on the other hand, outright lied about his support for LGBT rights as proven by his actions which I have documented.
     
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    Oh good God! Seriously? They support and speak out against anti Islamic bigotry Muslims are not and have not killed gays in this country aside from a loose cannon here or there like the Pulse Night Club thing American Muslims are not trying to kill or oppress LGBT people
     
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    You can call the Chicago Tribune a commie rag if you want, but you can't refute the facts that they are reporting, now can you
     
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    I'm not a party loyalists. Humans can be some wretched creatures when given power and not even mean to be.

    I don't like politicians that's not why I vote for them.

    Yeah they did. When people said marraige is between a man and a women that's exactly what they were doing.

    Clinton created Legislation to that extent. DOMA.

    I know they are your team and you're going to be apologetic for them but I know better and I'm not loyal.
    Show me his DOMA And I'll consider your statement.
     
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    Polly said," his actions show no animosity toward LGBT."
    Let him say that to transgender people that Trump wants banned from serving in the military. I'm sure they can set him straight.
     
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    What facts? If they were reporting facts, cite the damned facts and not the anti American **** ass far left media.

    I'm not reading their trash, I'm not giving them the site traffic.
     
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    Yes. The fact that you dismiss this means you are no Ally.

    Bigotry doesn't require oppression. The KKK largely doesn't oppress black people, I still hate their ideology.

    And if you defend their ideology you are almost as bad.
     
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    Bring me transgender people and we'll discuss it. But your performative solidarity is sickening. You do it for yourself, to show how enlightenment you are.

    I personally see this as rather scummy. You are using the legitimate struggle of others to show how virtuous you are... Just like some of the sanctimonious Christmas I've come across within Christianity.

    I'm tired of you people speaking for us, like we need you.
     
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    They definitely don't need you speaking for them.
     
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    I'm not pompous and arrogant enough to say that I can speak for other people. They have voices of their own.

    They're just people just like everyone else.
     
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    OK, Forget the Chicago Tribune , It has been reported in multiple news outlets. You can burry your head in the sand and keep supporting this piece of garbage if you want. Makes no difference to me

    https://www.usnews.com/news/health-...-court-trumps-hhs-pushes-lgbt-health-rollback

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ate-non-discrimination-health-protections-for

    https://www.uppermichiganssource.co...k-despite-Supreme-Court-ruling-571375141.html
     
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    It just baffles me how you folks get to these positions. First, you don't know history, second, you don't understand the law, and third you're ignorant post doesn't take into account the danger of the language of the ruling here. Trump isn't against LGBT folks or their rights, and has said so, numerous times. Why is that hard to accept from folks, like you?

    You know what is a tragedy? When this ruling comes back to squash other progressive narratives for all of those programs that liberals built to exclude and use to target their pet minorities with. The ruling opens the court to an onslaught of unintended litigation that will use this stupid narrative to attack what folks like you hold most dear. And it was the liberal wing that pushed it. That Roberts/ Gorsuch joined, perhaps is just them not wanting to kick the can down the road anymore. And like other disastrous liberal rulings, this one will end up creating much more chaos than it resolved.
     

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