Trump Smacked Down by SCOTUS Bigtime on LGBT Rights Issue

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  1. Polydectes

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    would you call someone who was against ku Klux Klan ideology a bigot?

    Islam prescribes death as punishment for homosexuality.

    Go ask any Muslim if they think Allah's prescriptions are wrong pretty positive I know what answer you're going to get.
     
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    Show me his version of DOMA then you got a point.

    So far he's doing better than any Democrat that ever held the office.
     
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    You're right about one thing . Trump is not against LGBT people . The fact is that he is not for or against anything except that which will personally benefit him. He has no core values . He has no principles and he has no soul. I will add that while in his heart and mind he is not against them, he is more than willing to kick them to the curb to kiss up to his evangelical base and the other bigoted moronic minions who support him.

    Having said that, I must ask what exactly are you talking about when you refer to "the danger of the language of the ruling" What is dangerous.? That this ruling may be used to defend other rights and scuttle - for instance-his barbaric rule on LGBT health care ? What?

    And what the hell does this mean?: "When this ruling comes back to squash other progressive narratives for all of those programs that liberals built to exclude and use to target their pet minorities with." Please explain with example and stop rambling on in vague generalities.

    And you say: And like other disastrous liberal rulings, this one will end up creating much more chaos than it resolved." What chaos?? Good god you are not making a whole lot of sense here
     
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    Good grief. !! I documented the fact the Islam, at least in this country, is not the enemy of LGBT people. You are over the edge in comparing the KKK to Islam . That is just a false equivalency logical fallacy . Surely an obviously intelligent bloke ( although somewhat blinded by you conservativism) can see that
     
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    Any Muslim.?? I guess you did not follow the inks that I posted.

    So what about the documentation that I posted regarding Trumps rules on health care for LGBT folks from multiple media sources that you basically said was bullshit. ? Are we sweeping that under the rug now?
     
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    His version of DOMA? What are you talking about? You might want to post something about that . I'm not going on a scavenger hunt . In any case, that was a long time ago and as I have documented, what he may have said in the past does not mitigate what he does in in present. Stop kissing his ass. Please!
     
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    Then you don't know the first thing about Islam. two idiots that wrote the moronic articles and whatever links you provided don't know s*** about it.

    I've read the texts for myself. you can lie to yourself and pretend you're in this little kumbaya circle holding hands and peace that isn't reality.

    And you are intentional blindness harbors danger.
    comparing one hateful ideology to another hateful ideology is absolutely not false equivalency.

    All you're doing is denying reality. Go learn about Islam.
    I think you're blinded by wokeism. you're so desperate not to appear racist you're so desperate to signal your virtue you would Buddy yourself up with horrendous ideologies like Islam.

    You can try and manipulate me all you want but this crap about you think I'm intelligent. I've learned about Islam I've talked to Muslims I know better than you.
     
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    yes DOMA Was Clinton's anti equality for LGBT act.

    This man in this s*** ass party actually put forth legislation targeted at gay people.

    These people are not my friend they don't represent me I know it's your tribe and you think they're the best. In reality they are worse.

    They just lie to you and you believe it.
    just because I don't kiss your tribe leaders ass doesn't mean that kiss any others that's your game.

    The scumbags have no interest in me. That is your fantasy. You aren't going to convince me that they do.
     
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    do you know what the word Muslim means?

    It means submit to Allah. So if you're saying that Allah is wrong you are not submitting to Allah.

    If people think that Allah's prescriptions for homosexuals is wrong they do not submit to Allah they challenge him. That will get you executed in countries ruled by Islam.

    I just don't care. This is such an insignificant bone you've chosen to pick why you call me a bigot for disliking an ideology that wants to put me to death.

    You're nitpicking stupid piddly ass nonsense while ignoring what is the biggest human rights violations in our world today.

    And I think it's because you're obsessed with tribalism. That's fine some people cheer for their sports teams you can cheer for whatever political party you like. I'm not a football fan so I don't give a s***.
     
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    There is clearly no reasoning with you. I am done trying. Yes I know, you will say that I am running away. The fact is that I have better things to do than to deal with a brainwashed ultra conservative and xenophobic Trump boot licker.
     
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    Clearly you do not have a clue as to why Clinton signed DOMA
     
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    I am not in the least bit despite in any sense of the word. I am who I am and I say what I mean and am totally comfortable in my skin. Deal with it
     
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    Not when your trying to tell me things I already know to be false.

    You'll never be able to reason with me that the Earth is flat or that the moon is made of cheese either.
    No I'm not going to say you are running away. I only do that to people I don't respect. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't respect you.

    You can call me whatever names you want. That doesn't gain you any knowledge.
     
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    I don't care. Point is Democrats like Republicans are only interested in gaining political points.

    Now that we the people did the work to accept gay people they want to swoop in and take the credit and you want to give it to them. I'm not about to, they did nothing.
     
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    I'm not the least bit apologetic for my views of Islam. You can call me a bigot if it makes you feel better, it has no effect on me.

    I've learned about Islam, mostly from former Muslims. I'm not the least bit sorry and I won't be bullied by your name calling.

    I hate ideology that prescribes a death sentence for things people can't help like homosexuality.

    I don't think if you knew about it you'd be so apologetic for it.

    So I don't think you are desperate. I think you are simply uninformed and if course resistant to truth because the connection you perceive between right wing and information.

    I do think because of that you are tribalistic.
     
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    Thanks for the respect. I am trying to respect you to but you're making it difficult for me
     
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    I think that you are uninformed about the Evangelicals and other Trump supporters who, in some cases advocated the killing of gays, while, for the most part, work for their slow death but denying health care and work place protections . Yes, they stop short of saying that you should be hanged or thrown off a roof - but are they really any better. YOU need to get woke buddy
     
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    Put your tribalism aside. Don't act like I'm a far right conservative... Lol... Because I don't trust politicians.

    I'm a member of no party. I hold conservative views on some things and liberal views on others.

    Maybe you can't, maybe you have to view the world as black and white.
     
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    You denigrate Islam, You kiss up to Trump and you deny or minimize his anti LGBT policies . So please enlighten me on you liberal views.
     
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    No, I probably know a lot more about the various evangelical groups that advocate the killing of gays than you do.

    I'm not one of those people that will avoid chocolate overran ice cream because you tell me Hitler ate chocolate ice cream. I have a mind of my own.


    No some of them don't stop short of that. They go further.

    What have you the idea that I thought they were better? The left doesn't defend them they hate them for the same things Islam says. It's the left being hypocrites and it's just because of the skin color of the people.

    No, getting woke means pretending bigotry is Aokay as long as it's done by people other than white Christans. I refuse that stupidity in exchange for actual knowledge.
     
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    Oh dear I denigrate a barbaric ideology that supports putting me to death. If only I was woke and celebrated it because the extreme bigotry is great as long as it isn't from white Western Christan conservatives.

    I don't apologize.

    When it has a Renaissance, and stops exterminating people for stupid **** like apostasy or blasphemy. I'll stop denigrating it.


    Just because I don't brown nose your Democrat savior's doesn't mean I kiss Trump's ass. This is the tribalism that interferes with your ability to think for yourself.

    I didn't deny or minimalize anything. I acknowledge it. It's just puddly ass crap compared to what your savors do.
     
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    I am not the one who is tribal . Trump supporters are tribal with their blind faith and support for everything that he says and does. Yes I'm am a liberal Democrat, but I can and have supported moderate and reasonable Republicans, whos numbers have dwindled in recent years because they were expelled from the Republican tribe. Remember John Huntsman? He was drummed out of the party for saying that he believed in evolution. John Mc Cain was a pretty good guy who caught a lot of **** for refusing to say that Obama was a Kenyan Muslim .
     
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    yes you are. You're completely blind Islam. you think anybody that points out any failing more f****** from a Democrat is a trump bootlicker.

    Your screen name expresses your tribe. That's as tribal As It gets.

    exactly like you just switch the name out Trump for something else.
    Tribal badging.
    I could probably support moderate and reasonable Democrats if such a thing existed. I seem to remember a time when they did.
    somehow I don't think you voted for McCain when he ran against Obama. So I think you're lying when you say you would support moderate Republicans. That's what Trump was.
     
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    No I did not vote for McCann. But I might of if he ran against someone who I did not think was up for the job. Mc Cain was one of the last rational republicans. Republican who basically wanted the same things for the country as Democrats want. Peace. Prosperity . Equality. The current Republican party stands for Peace, Prosperity , Equality, for White, Christian, Cisgender, wealthy straight men and screw everyone else
     

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