Trump to Release the JFK Files over CIA Objections

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  1. Shinebox

    Shinebox Well-Known Member

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    Sorry that you don't find anything groundbreaking to confirm your confirmation bias ...
     
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    The Jews killed Kennedy. Because he opposed Israel's nuclear program and his brother was going after organized crime.

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    Which you cannot prove
     
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    They didn't know what to hide so they hid as much as they could. They had over 50 years but they claim they're now reviewing what is still "classified" to see what is going to be redacted and released and what they still need to hide. When the government has nothing to hide, they hide everything, eh? There is only one reason to hide evidence, it's to protect the criminals.
     
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    Pot calling the kettle black. For you if the government says so it always must be true.

    "They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority." - Gerald Massey
     
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    lol, you repeat the same tired contrivances while relying on a phoney WC report.

    Failure.
     
  7. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    During the investigation, the US tapped a lot of assets to track Oswald. The results of those investigations could still be connect to living assets today.
     
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    Not good enough. Not good enough. The American people deserve absolute transparency after 50+ years of this political grabass.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course not. Nothing ever will be just like I posted to you before:
     
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    I would be satisfied with a full release of all documents unredacted.

    Doesn't mean I would not think that JFK was assassinated by Oswald. But it means I would be satisfied with transparency.

    50+ years of this has gone on LONG ENOUGH.
     
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    Wrong success as I presented evidence which the WC relies on and you can quote no evidence of any support to support your failed claim/


    It is clearly, absolutely and exclusively your assertion which is the failure.

    Go ahead and show some evidence, answer my question
     
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    You BELIEVE you do NOT think.

    The evidence proves he was assassinated by Oswald and you know it
     
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    Wrong the evidence says it is true.

    Evidence is something you never provide for your claims
     
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    No, it doesn't. The evidence points to other shooters. You refuse to see it.
     
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    Spoken like a wise guy crook....
     
  16. Soupnazi

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    No it does not.

    You can present no such evidence of any kind whatsoever, because it does not exist.

    I did present tons of evidence proving you wrong and all you can do is present a childish, unnh unnh,

    Offer some evidence or it constitutes an admission you are wrong and uninformed
     
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    You haven't presented anything but the WC. So witness testimony of multiple shooters, physics which clearly shows a shot coming from the front, none of that matters to you?

    lol.
     
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    Wrong I have presented physical evidence which still exists and which the WC merely based it's conclusion on and you cannot challenge it.
    There is not one lesson or law or experiment based on physics which would lead one to conclude that anyone fired at Kennedy from the front.

    You need to expain exactly what you are citing about physics. There is nothing in physics to support you.

    Witnesses are the weakest of all forms of evidence but in fact in this case the vast majority of them support what the physical evidences proves and that conclusion is that Oswald shot Kennedy. No evidence shows otherwise and only a very small number of witnesses disagree. There are always witnesses who get it wrong so those witnesses mean nothing in the absence of physical evidence.

    Once again I have presented clear physical evidence which you cannot challenge nor can you present any evidence of any kind to challenge the WC/. You cannot even quote the WC and have no idea what it says.
     
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    I am not allowed to challenge the official story?

    We're done here. You can swallow whatever load you like from the government. Like I said to you before, do your own damned research.
     
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    It is not a question of what you are allowed to do.

    It is simply fact you cannot do so WITH EVIDENCE.

    I have done research you have not.

    You have only halfway listened with gullibiity to what others have told you rather than looking logically and objectively at both sides. which is what true research entails.

    No we are not doen I will be here correcting every false post you make
     
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    I would too. However the problem is the US government has a zero trust factor and we could never be sure they've released ALL the documents (redacted or not) just because they say they did.
     
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    When people use terms like "the government", "the military or "the Jews", they act like these are single organisms with a single mind. This, of course isn't true. The Federal government has about 2.75M employees and our military has about 1.55M members. Most of them are patriots. Some, like any group of people, are self-serving asshats. Still, there's enough eyes on government actions (or inactions) that any malfeasance would become known. Nothing stays secret for long unless it truly is a matter of national security....and not always then as Snowden and Manning proved.
     
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    It doesn't matter if it's true or not (with respect to government), history shows that since the concept of government was invented, ALL governments tend to tyranny given time. So governments all over and throughout history have similar characteristics. They are in fact run by a very few, the rest are just worker ants. And it's the very few who are responsible for that tyranny.

    "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." - Thomas Jefferson

    You think Jefferson believed government is a single organism?

    Yeah, like the majority of those in Congress, the Executive and the Judiciary.

    Any??? The fox watches the hen house and controls the press. We are only privy to what they choose to tell us (if any is true), what leaks out or what's obvious. There are rare times when the corruption is actually exposed by insiders.

    Right, we still have no real knowledge about the truth about Pearl Harbor and JFK, for example. And those are decades old and quite significant events. We only have what we're told and our speculations.
     
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    Ummm, actually we do. What are the answers which elude you regarding Pearl Harbor?
     
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    For YOU (and others) the case is obviously closed. But that's insignificant to those who want to know. WE, as a collective, have no knowledge of the truth if it is admittedly and deliberately classified. WE don't know what it is that was destroyed or the totality of the evidence.

    The allegations that Roosevelt knew in advance are far from settled for me. The circumstances only serve to lend support to those allegations.

    We are told many simplistic stories by the US government. They work for the ignorant and complacent majority. JFK, RFK, MLK and 9/11 are significant and obvious examples. Here's another government that doesn't shy from admitting it.

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels
     

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