Trump was correct, children are basically immune

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Death rate from covid world wide is almost entirely based on demograpics. The lower the median age the lower the death rate which proves the media jumping all over Trump for his statement on covid and children is just another leftist smear campaign.


    "in terms of case fatality ratio, the U.S. is doing significantly better than many other countries. The country's case fatality ratio is 3.3%, meaning that for every 100 people with COVID-19, only about three die."

    "age is a major risk factor for severe COVID-19 disease and death. Therefore, countries with much younger populations may have far fewer deaths. In Uganda, for instance, the per capita death rate is 0.01, one of the lowest in the world. The median age of Ugandans is 15.9. By contrast, the median age in the U.S. is 38.4. In Belgium and the U.K., which have the highest number of deaths per 100,000 people, the median ages are 41.9 and 40.0 years, respectively. And predictably, the per capita death rate is higher in those countries.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...-covid-19-deaths-per-capita-and-by-case-count
     
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    The definition of immune implies that you can't get the virus.

    You didn't know that ?

    Children, like everyone else, can become infected with COVID and pass it on to others.

    So as always, Trump's full of s***.
     
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    Calling it immunity is an ignorant claim. You can say children are less apt to develop serious cases of the disease, but they just as likely to catch it and spread it to others.
     
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    The word "basically" is intentionally used as a qualifier here.
     
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    0.01 % in those 15 and under is basically immune.
     
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    <EDIT> Immune doesn't mean what you think it means.
     
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    It means what Trump meant it to mean. You can argue semantics but his qualifier of " basically " meant children are extremely resistant to the effects of Covid and he's correct. They are.
     
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    We just saw a Georgia YMCA camp close down because hundreds of kids got infected in just a couple days

    Please stop spreading misinformation
     
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    And how many died or even got seriously ill?
    Please stop spreading misinformation.


    Uganda, for instance, the per capita death rate is 0.01, one of the lowest in the world. The median age of Ugandans is 15.9
     
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    The virus is not the disease, the virus can cause the disease, but often does not. Trump made it clear he was talking about the disease, COVID-19. The virus is named SARS-coV-2.

    So as always, the media is uneducated and full of s###.

    https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...ase-(covid-2019)-and-the-virus-that-causes-it
     
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    "When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean --
    neither more nor less!"

    Humpy Trumpy

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    Very true and on the issue of semantics if a child test positive for the virus but suffers no ill effects they are indeed immune to the effects of the virus, basically and otherwise.
    Glad you cleared that up.
     
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    What was it that Trump proclaimed early on that he had "under control" and would just "go away" because ""We have very few people with it... The people are getting better! They're all getting better!"?
     
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    Become infected with virus -> develop symptoms consistent with disease -> severity of symptoms necessitates medical attention -> clinical efforts are unsuccessful at hindering progression of disease -> the body's organs are damaged to a point of functional instability -> death occurs.

    Immunity implies the first step in that chain never happens NOT that the chances of progressing to each stage lessen due to age. President Trump was technically wrong but furthermore it is the impression that his comment makes, furthering anti-science anti-mask anti-shutdown sentiments, which is the more dangerous part. Twitter and FB were right to strike his posts down.
     
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    Which has nothing to do with the subject of this thread.
     
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    And those who pulled his post are both Democrat political operatives.
    The Twitter employee who announced why the Trump campaign account was suspended is Nick Pacilio a self described political operative for kamala Harris
     
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    Yes they are and there's no shortage of bias in their hearts nor election manipulation in their agenda - but in this instance they were right to act.
     
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    The OP proves you and them wrong.


    Uganda, for instance, the per capita death rate is 0.01, one of the lowest in the world. The median age of Ugandans is 15.9.
     
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    Is that the point?

    Or is it that they will SPREAD the damn virus like crazy
     
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    Fair point but the fact remains children are basically immune just as Trump stated.
     
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    So they likely won't get sick and die, which makes it okay to send them to school to become super spreaders.
     
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    If they were "immune" they would not catch it and could then not spread it.

    That is totally not the case. Please stop spreading misinformation
     
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    No. Immune means immune. Which means incapable of either being infected or transmitting the virus. Just stop talking bull crap.
     

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