Trump was impeached with more votes against him than any other president

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  1. Promise Hero

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    With all the continuing investigations surrounding His Impeachness. Maybe later.
     
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    Another piece of horsecrap from your sweaty imagination. There's not a single democrat that made anything close to a 'promise' of that sort before Tramp became president. This goes down the drain along with your B.S. claim that Ted Kennedy attempted to conspired with the soviets to bring Ranald Reagan to heel in 1984. NO evidence no, witnesses, no guts. You'll just have to find another way to support His Impeachness. A president who undermines the American People by feeding them lies.
     
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    Feeding them lies? You mean like "If you like your current health care plan and M.D. then you can keep them, period," as Barack Obama DELIBERATELY lied to the citizens again and again and again . . . while leftists cheered?
     
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    Righty is whining and spewing B,S because "His Impeachness' got caught. His Impeachness is the most corupted investigated president in history. He's a pure pathological liar who can't separate reality from his delusions.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/trump-investigations/

    The investigations and lawsuits began even before Donald Trump took office. Now he is surrounded by them: Congressional inquiries that could lead to his impeachment and legal challenges that could force him to reveal his tax returns, pay damages or face criminal charges after he leaves office. Lawmakers and prosecutors are looking at whether he abused the powers of the presidency, obstructed an investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign, engaged in fraudulent business practices, violated the emoluments clauses of the Constitution and defamed women by saying they lied about alleged sexual assaults. Here’s a guide to the biggest issues under investigation, or being fought out in federal and state courts:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/trump-investigations/

    Conflicts of Interest including income taxes

    Emoluments Violations

    Trump’s Finances (Did Trump misrepresent the value of his assets and liabilities in sworn disclosures?)

    Foreign Influence(Do any foreign entities have financial leverage over Trump?)

    Campaign Finance What role did two Giuliani associates play in the Ukraine meddling

    Obstruction of Justice Did Trump attempt to obstruct the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 campaign?

    Conflicts of Interest Can the president be forced to turn over his tax returns so lawmakers can look for undisclosed financial entanglements?

    Porn-Star Payoff Did Trump authorize the payment of hush money to to an adult-film star?

    Emoluments Violations Is the president violating the Constitution’s emoluments clauses?

    Trump’s Finances Did Trump misrepresent the value of his assets and liabilities in sworn disclosures?

    Foreign Influence Do any foreign entities have financial leverage over Trump?

    Hush Money Did the Trump Organization break state laws in the Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal hush-money schemes?

    Illegal Profits Is Trump violating the Constitution’s emoluments clauses?

    Bank Fraud Did the Trump Organization inflate its financial health to get loans?

    Insurance Fraud Did the Trump Organization lie to reduce how much it paid for insurance?

    Zervos Defamation Did Donald Trump defame a woman by saying she lied about him groping her?

    Oh don't forget he was one of 3 president in history to be impeached

    And much more as this list isn’t exhaustive
     
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    No no... I insist. I enjoy all the MSM and the rest of Democrats focusing on President Trump 24/7, paying no attention to Democrat presidential hopefuls. Stay with him :)
     
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    If I was such faithful Democrat like yourself, I’d disown Ted Kennedy too :D
     
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    I asked you for
    All you've got is 2nd hand hear-say from an ex-Soviet KGB Boss hell bent on the destruction of democracies around the world. I asked you to show me a memo, a document, even a hand written note showing word for word that Kennedy " wanted to do a deal with Andropov and coach him to look good in front of American Audiences in exchange for Kennedy's help curbing (handling) Reagan."

    This is my second request for this. Your posts on this subject are factless, gutless, and total B.S. Your posts show contempt for the truth and for anyone who comes across them So proof please
     
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    Sure... sure... :D
     
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    post 533 was my second request for you to show me a memo, a document, even a hand written note showing word for word that Kennedy " wanted to do a deal with Andropov and coach him to look good in front of American Audiences in exchange for Kennedy's help curbing (handling)v Reagan." as is you claim.

    So how long can you keep up your cowardly behavior with not a shred of evidence of your claims about Kennedy and Andropov. Your contempt for the truth is loud and clear. This contempt occurred on an angry and raging post 431
     
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    I strongly recommend just adding to your ignore list. He will continue goading you into posting something that violates PF rules.
     
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    My friend,

    Is not Forbes a reputable source of irrefutable information to you, at last as respectable as NYT which you quote often?

    The allegation that 700lb Democratic Guerrilla colluded with russiies to subvert American democracy is plausible and in the character of Ted Kennedy.
     
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    Good advice but why haven’t you added me to your ignore list? You reply to my posts often :confusion:
     
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    You are.

    PF gives the ability to remove the filter on ignored content.
     
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    And you never tire of reminding us that the NYT is purely Fake News. So is the Forbes article: It says:
    "Picking his way through the Soviet archives that Boris Yeltsin had just thrown open, in 1991 Tim Sebastian, a reporter for the London Times, came across an arresting memorandum. Composed in 1983 by Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the KGB, the memorandum was addressed to Yuri Andropov, the top man in the entire USSR. The subject: Sen. Edward Kennedy'

    the Forbes article doesn't state that Chebikov never met Kennedy in the Soviet Union Kennedy wasn't in the Soviet Union at the time But you probably think he was. Kennedys message was delivered by a go between a former Senator Tunney who spoke to a Soviet Translator who then gave the message to Chebrikov. But you probably think Cherbrikov spoke directly to Kennedy duh! .And you keep following the fiction not the facts. And so we have a memo with 3rd hand information. But you believe the fiction. Forbes article doesn't quote from the memo anything that suggests Kennedy wanted to enhance Andropov' anti war speeches on U.S TV in exchange for his undermining Reagon in some way. In short no proof no evidence no guts just trash slander which is the only way the righty can fight. So where's the quote??
     
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    Lol so you've been claiming that the source is a Forbes writer when the true source is Victor Chebrikov, the top man at the Soviet KGB,at a time when the KGB was fighting democracies world wide. In short not bright enough to read your own article to find that out. The Author of the Article doesn't prove that Chebrikov is reliable as he got the information from a 3rd hand source. And again no quote anywhere that Kennedy offered to assist Andropov in exchange for undermining Reagan. You've been screwed over by a Soviet KGB director and you don't know the difference. Good luck
     
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    Just more word games. Just because they didn't use the word PROMISE, you make this out to be some sort of lie. BTW, it was Trump who made the claim first, not Dutch. Yet, in the impeachment, Democrats made up all sorts of things they said Trump was thinking. I guess the Right needs to start claiming they can read minds and claim exactly what Lefty intent is and then report it as fact.
     
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    So... what's the point on having someone on ignore?

    Don't answer :roflol:
     
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    No. I never tire! :D
     
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    My friend,

    The allegations that Ted Kennedy' colluded with russkies are as solid as allegations that Donald Trump has colluded with russkies. And the unproven allegations that Donald Trump has colluded with russkies been bought by you and the Democrats lock, stock and barrel.

    Period.
     
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    So now you're in league with an anti-American democracy killer, Soviet KGB director Victor Chebrikov who never met Kennedy. This is just simple minded rage and revenge without facts or quotes.
     
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    About the same amount of facts and quotes you and yours have to convict Donald Trump of colluding with russkies, right?
     
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    OK.
     
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    The notion that Democrats wanted to impeach trump before he got elected is not wrong, but it ignores the fact that every President faces some percentage of Americans who want him impeached immediately. Every President gets to ~25 or 30% of support for impeachment at some points during their tenure.

    The fact that Trump started with such a high floor is because of his own **** ups like bragging about grabbing women by the *****, promoting Russian talking points against the conclusions of US intelligence agencies, and dismissing war heroes and gold star families.

    The fact that Trump is currently around 50% support for impeachment (higher than at any point for Clinton and higher than Nixon before the week he actually resigned) is also because of his own **** ups when he got caught trying to pressure a foreign government into providing campaign assistance in the form of an announced investigation against his domestic political rival while he simultaneously and unilaterally held up hundreds of millions in military aid and a requested meeting.
     
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    Lol really quote for quote the numbers match up eh? A 100% nonsense response on your part. You keep stating this pile of B.S nonsense that Kennedy told the Soviets he would handle Reagan.

    You''re not contesting that you're in league with an anti-American democracy killer, Soviet KGB director Victor Chebrikov who never met Kennedy. This is just simple minded rage and revenge without facts or quotes. But lining up with the Soviet KGB America killers shows contempt for American democracy
     
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    Not impeachment news, but Morning Consult is out with their Dec Trump approval numbers.

    For the 2nd straight month, he gained approval numbers at the state level.... And this is after impeachment (I suppose)... Not sure I understand that, but America doesn't make a lick of sense anymore.

    Interesting States (these are basically the 7 states currently most split on Trump)
    Montana - Trump up 4 pts (+3 overall)
    Nebraska - up 6 pts (+1)
    North Carolina - up 2 pts (Even)
    Texas - down 3 pts (Even)
    Florida - down 2 pts (-1)
    Alaska - down 12 pts (-2)
    Georgia - up 1 pt (-2)

    In the big 3 "swing" states, he's still down in each, although gaining.
    Michigan - down 1 pt (-15 overall)
    Pennsylvania - up 2 pts (-5)
    Wisconsin - up 5 pts (-9)
     
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