1. Really? Why had he simply not done that before? 2. What did they need seats for? They wanted a dictatorship. 3. You didn't prove jack all, the Shah was no angel but infinitely preferable to the alternative. 4. Nope, the US doesn't want any colonies, just free and democratic nations they can trade with. 5. So if I told you the sky was blue you would refuse to believe that fact because of your personal prejudice? Explains a lot.
I have told you this already numerous times - but will be happy to do so again - you are the one sidestepping - think your brain goes into freeze mode when I say that we were arming and supporting Al Qaeda in Syria. But never mind the US - What cave have you been living in that you do not know that Saudi Arabia is the cradle of terrorism on this planet ? Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, the nut jobs in Pakistan and India - and the former Russian "stans" - and numerous others. ALL - share the same Saudi inspired Salafi Radical Islamist ideology. Every one Saudi Arabia has been exporting this ideology all over the world for decades - supporting these groups and arming many of them. Now it is your turn to dance ..
Yeah we want free and democratic nations like china. We don't give a **** about the people all we care about is if we can make money. If we cared about the people in venezuala and not just the white 10% that controlled 90% of the wealth we never would have placed sanctions on that country. If a country does not allow us to exploit either r their labor or resources we want nothing to do with them see Rwanda.
I'm notoriously light on my feet. Yes, backing Islamist groups where they are useful to us, just like we helped the Commies during WW2 (including Ho Chin Minh), just like we aided Saddam etc, that's realpolitik, it's not terrorism, we are backing to groups fighting free and democratic societies. Come on, get real.
Yes, we would all love a free and democratic China. The idea of sanctions on Venezuela is to topple the government which is impoverishing its' populace. True Clinton chickened out over Rwanda but after Somalia...?
You are very light on your feed - once again managing to dance around the issues with nonsense that does not relate and propaganda false narrative. During WW2 - someone was attacking us- the WW means "World War" - a fact to which you seem oblivious. As a citizen you have the right to shoot someone in self defense. You don't have the right to pay someone to go out and kill a bunch of people. You have no understanding of what you are talking about. Syria is democratic - and is one of the most free Muslim Nations on the Planet - Unlike your beloved El Saud - there is no Strict Sharia - and this is written into the Syrian Constitution. They did not stone adulterers and kill people for the crime of apostasy (leaving the faith). Women are free do drive cars, they wear skirts and proper bathing suits - don't need permission from a man to be educated. There are Christian Churches and Jewish Synagogues. There is drinking alcohol and dancing in bars. Syria is a "Secular" nation - and for this reason the regime was hated by the Islamists. The people of Syria were not great fans of Assad - but, they were terrified of the radical Islamist Jihadists who wanted to (and did turn much of Syria) into a Strict Sharia Totalitarian Nightmare. That is why the freedom loving people fought against the freedom hating Islamist Jihadists - led by Al Qaeda and ISIS. Your narrative is then completely backward. We were not on the side of freedom - we were on the side of Al Qaeda/ISIS who hate individual liberty and want to take freedom away from the people of Syria - not to mention the depraved and horrible atrocities they were committing against the people of Syria. Your position is one of raging hypocrisy and Orwellian doublespeak. You claim to support "Freedom" on the one hand - then support radical Islamist terrorists who hate freedom.
the sanctions when they nationalized the oil is what caused the economic downturn. That is like saying Iran is poor because it got religion.
Not seeing any sourced the US pushed for democracy and so it happened. As far as I know, your claim is fake. The people voted in Mosaddegha. And so your claim the people wanted a dictatorship is insane. Your claim Mosaddegha was talking to the communist is fake. The communists weren't voted in / had no seats. I sourced that he tortured and executed politicians by the 1000's a year. You claiming he was there against communism, who had no seats,... is fake. The US installed their fascist regimes all over the globe.... proving you wrong. It's more like you're claiming the sky is green. And I source and prove it's blue. Yet you without prove claim it's still green. You're not proving a thing here. Just ranting around.
Oh come on! Are you actually trying to defend horrific Assad's regime as a democracy? What we want is a free and democratic Syria not your dictatorship and we're happy to use various factions just as we used the Muj against the USSR and the USSR against the Nazis. No one has any illusions but they're our friends and allies and infinitely superior to the alternative which is essentially a Sunni version of Iran.
People who voted for lots of folks who turned into communist stooges, he allied himself to the communists and took funding from them. The Shah stopped the commies and the religious extremists. The US spread democracy to the world, proving me right. I'm calling you out for you hypocrisy, the sky is blue, accept it.
Comparing Assad to Nazis is as nonsensical as it gets. Assad won overwhelmingly in the last democratic election - and it is no secret that the People prefer him to the radical Islamist proxy army we set against him. Al Qaeda/ISIS are our friends and allies ? -- (and what on earth is a Sunni version of Iran - Iran is Shia - and there is little in common between Iran and Syria -with respect to freedom of the people)
Oh come on, democracy under Assad is a SHAM! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Syrian_presidential_election#Election_observers The Syrian people may prefer Assad but they want a free society. AQ and ISIS are our enemies but can use religious extremists just as we used the USSR against the Nazis. Saudi Arabia could be a Sunni version of Iran if we do not keep it's ruling elite in power.
Bob - democracy in the US is a SHAM ! so when you use such terms - you need to qualify what the heck you mean. Then you post a link - but cite nothing from that link - how on earth would I even know what to look for if I don't know what you mean by sham Since you cited nothing - from a huge link on the Presidential Election I will attempt to add some color for you. First note that "Sham Democracy" was your initial claim but now your claim is "Sham Elections" - as per your link - the link you don't cite from. From the section on "Election Observers" - which is where one would look for answers. So what did these folks say - not including the US of course as per conflict of interest guild-lines applicable here. Did they say the election was a Sham or Not ? - the overall. Keep in mind this is WIKI - so you or I could have posted it - what is meant 'no independent monitors" ? I have no clue what that means in the context - need definition of what is meant by this to make any sense of it. how does an international delegation of observers from more than 30 nations - India, Brazil, Canada, US - not qualify as "Independent". I am confused - did this delegation say the elections were a Sham ? - Sans US opinion of course.
I already sourced that this aint true. He did not ally himself with the communists. They didn't get ANY seats in their congress!!! lol He stopped the democracitcally elected government with zero communists and the religious leaders took control AFTER the shah was removed, not before. The US uprooted democracies all over the globe to install fascist dictatorships for neo-colonial control. Hence they are the biggest supporter of terrorism. You didn't prove crap, unlike me. Your just rewriting history because you don't like the dirty bloody pages of what the United States stood for.
Yes, they were a SHAM! The US is one of the most free and democratic countries on earth, you're just flannelling saying you can't read a PAGE!
Lol? Load of lies? Didn't need to get any seats, they didn't need them, sending mobs to support Mossadeq in his state of emergency; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tudeh_Party_of_Iran
I asked you a simple question. What I didn't ask is what you thought. What I asked is what the monitoring nations thought of the election. and don't post a link - especially a big one like you posted - and tell someone "Go find information to prove my claim" This is mindlessly idiotic and obtuse. I have told you this numerous times - it is up to you to cite from your link - that which you think supports your claim - either get with the program or flock off.
Here's the freedom index, see where Syria rates; https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-world/2019/syria Come on, just admit you're wrong, stop defending the indefensible, stop trying to square the circle, admit the sky is blue.
I am not interested in where it rates against the world - nit - I specifically outlined what part of the spectrum I was referring to. What part of the phrase "Relative to other ME Muslim nations" escapes you ? Go and stop causing me pain.
Not seeing anywhere how he needed the communists to govern in a democracy, when they didn't have any seats in congress.
