What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

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    3.6%
  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Impossible to say

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  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
  1. FatBack

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    Projection, you keep saying "the South" and "the racist South" not things like "some in the South"...etc
    Just say what you mean. You pretend no one in the North has objected to statue removal.
     
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    Tools... useful idiots...black lives don't really matter...tantrum throwing spoilt brats....
     
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    If black lives matter, why do so many black men kill other blacks? Why do so few black men marry the mothers of their children and raise those children properly?
     
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    If you are unaware, there's nothing that can inform you.

    You could try to understand the nation wide protests going on and the reason for them.
    If you actually want to know.
     
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    But what's one to do. Those types will still vote tRUMP. It's why they are labeled the cult.
     
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    What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

    I take them at their word. They say their goal is to replace our society and government with something else and are willing to engage in violence to do it. That fits a classic definition of terrorism. They are terrorists and it isn't what I think, it is what they claim.
     
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    If there was a justifiable reason, you should be able to explain it to us.
     
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    What are you talking about. Thread question "What do you honestly think of BLM"

    They are tools, useful idiots, used by communists and radical islamists for whom black lives are cannon fodder.

    there's a disconnect between my post and your response
     
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    Oh, I thought those were words describing those will may vote for tRUMP.
     
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    #BlackLivesMatter was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer. Black Lives Matter Foundation, Inc is a global organization in the US, UK, and Canada, whose mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes. By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives.
    https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

    For those who want to know.
     
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    In other words you can't explain how blacks are discriminated against, because they are not. They are discriminated in favor of with affirmative action policies. I want that to end.

    The wide spread black ghetto riots that followed the death of George Floyd happened because, when the police lose control of a black neighborhood, blacks loot stores. It does not require a so called "injustice." It happened in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina in 2005.
     
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    These photographs were taken of George Zimmerman after his encounter with Trayvon Martin.

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    They clearly show that Trayvon Martin threw George Zimmerman on the ground and began hitting him in the face. This was justifiable homicide in self defense. The court trial reached the right decision. Nevertheless, there never should have been a trial.
     
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    You were uderly mistaken
     
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    What is systemic racism?
    Johnson defined systemic racism, also called structural racism or institutional racism, as "systems and structures that have procedures or processes that disadvantages African Americans."

    Glenn Harris, president of Race Forward and publisher of Colorlines, defined it as "the complex interaction of culture, policy and institutions that holds in place the outcomes we see in our lives."
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/06/15/systemic-racism-what-does-mean/5343549002/

    Throughout this country’s history, the hallmarks of American democracy – opportunity, freedom, and prosperity – have been largely reserved for white people through the intentional exclusion and oppression of people of color. The deep racial and ethnic inequities that exist today are a direct result of structural racism: the historical and contemporary policies, practices, and norms that create and maintain white supremacy.

    At the Urban Institute, we examine how structural racism continues to disproportionately segregate communities of color from access to opportunity and upward mobility by making it more difficult for people of color to secure quality education, jobs, housing, healthcare, and equal treatment in the criminal justice system.
    https://www.urban.org/features/structural-racism-america


    It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.
    ...
    The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-systemic-racism-in-charts-graphs-data-2020-6

    I really think you have the where withall to actually do some research. But here you go, in case you don't.
     
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    Yes, so? He went looking for a fight.
     
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    No, not mistaken.
     
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    I maintain that "systemic racism" is nothing more than an alibi for the fact that blacks are more likely to be in prison than whites, and that they are more likely to be poor than whites. I attribute these different outcomes to different racial characteristics, that I attribute to genetic differences. Blacks are more likely to be criminals than whites. They are less likely to be intelligent than whites. Our economy rewards intelligence, and punishes its absence.

    Of course, intelligence and criminal behavior can be found in both races. I recently posted a documented fact that one third of black men have felony convictions. Even if we consider the likelihood that some of the remaining two thirds of black men committed felonies for which they were not convicted, we are probably left with at least half of black men who get through life without committing felonies. The average black IQ is 85. The average white IQ is 100. That is a considerable difference, which again I attribute to genetics. Nevertheless, several years ago I read of a Nigerian immigrant in England who tested 162 on an IQ test.

    Because there are still sanctions and taboos against looking for genes for intelligence and crime, it is disingenuous to claim that little genetic evidence exists. If those who maintain that there are no intrinsic differences between blacks and whites really believe that they would welcome an open scientific inquiry into the matter.

    Fortunately, the Chinese lack Western squeamishness about this issue. If it continues to be dangerous to look for intelligence genes and crime genes in the West, and to see how they are more frequently found in some races than other races, The Chinese will continue to look for these genes. I am confident they will continue to find them. Because the Chinese are known for intelligence, obedience to the law, and monogamy wherever they live, regardless of poverty and discrimination, they have no reason to fear the results of genetic research. They also do not feel the least bit guilty about black poverty and prison rates.
     
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    He was doing his job as a guard in a gated community. Nothing justified Trayvon Martin attacking him from behind, throwing him to the ground, and punching him in the face.

    Years ago I was in a situation that was very similar to the one Trayvon Martin was in. One evening I rode my bicycle past an office building where several years earlier I had worked as a security guard. Because I am retrospective, I rode my bicycle into the parking lot behind the office building. Two security guards came out to look at me. I got off of my bicycle, and walked with it over to the security guards. I asked, "Excuse me, am I trespassing?"

    When I was told I was, I apologized, said I would leave immediately, and I explained why I was there. We had a brief, friendly conversation, and I left. That is the way a civilized man behaves in a situation like that.

    All Trayvon Martin needed to do when he noticed that George Zimmerman was watching him was to walk over to Zimmerman, tell him what his name was, and explain that he had recently moved in with his father, who lived in the gated community. He could have gone on to give the address of his father. Zimmerman would probably know who the man was. They would have had a brief, friendly conversation. Zimmerman would have said something like, "OK. You're cool. I know your dad. I am one of the watchmen here."

    That would have been the end of it. But no, Trayvon was a black ghetto thug. He felt dissed, and thought he could only assert his manhood by attacking Zimmerman from behind.

    Civilization selects for civilized behavior, but the process is evolutionary, and requires many centuries. During those centuries criminal justice systems killed those with crime genes. The few children some criminals had rarely lived to adulthood. Characteristics that enabled the ancestors of Negroes to survive in the tribal societies of sub Saharan Africa learn for many of them felony convictions in civilized countries.
     
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    Of course they are more likely.
    That's what systemic racism is about.

    Now for your IQ, quote the studies that show the type and amount of melanin one has directly relates to IQ.
    Show that as people tan and get more melanin their IQ decreases.
    Show that culture, education, poverty, etc, are a good reason for IQ differeces.

    Again, you are perfectly capable of finding this out on your own. If one is really inclined to seek facts.
     
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    The police he was in contact with told him not to engage.
    So no, he was not doing his job. He took it upon himself to go look for a fight.
     
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    You are committing the Straw Man Fallacy. In the Straw Man Fallacy one distorts an argument in order to make it easier to refute.

    Light skinned Negroes, or Mulattoes if you will, tend to be more in intelligent than dark skinned Negroes. That is because they have more white ancestry. The only reason there is any controversy about that at all is because it is often dangerous to discuss it.

    Dark skin does not cause low intelligence; it correlates with low intelligence. This is one of those times that it really is true that "Correlation is not causation."
     
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    George Zimmerman was not ordered to leave Trayvon Martin alone. He lived in that gated community. He had an understandable desire to learn more about Trayvon Martin.
     
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    Based on what?
    Do white people get less intelligent if they are in the sun for a long time and get tanned?
     
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    He was told by police to not engage.
     

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