What is the locus of your personal identity?

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  1. cirdellin

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    How do you self identify?
    Race?
    Gender?
    Your language?
    Wealth?
    Level of education?
    The size of your house or quality of your vehicle?
    Your wardrobe?
    Something else?
    Here everyone is likely to say that they view themselves as an individual but which of these categories is really true?
     
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    Don't know if the following list is what you are considering, but these are the things that define who I am:

    1. Logical and scientific mind.
    2. A caring spouse that is much better than I deserve.
    3. Financially secure and don't owe money to anyone - obtained through hard work, self responsibility, and frugal decisions.
    4. Raised by a Dad who could do practically anything and taught me the same, and by a Mom who loved her children with all her heart.
    5. Done and seen a lot of cool things in this world.
    6. Good times spent with intelligent friends.
    7. Drug and alcohol free since birth. (except for that time when my cousin and I were 12 years old and he stole a Schlitz beer from his parents - that was my first and last sample of alcohol - don't know how anyone drinks that stuff.)
     
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    I allow myself a bit of sinful pride in my honesty, my patience, my reason(ableness), my stoicism and my self-reliance/sufficiency. I'd say those are the things that define me.

    And since I'm being honest, its possible my patience might sometimes present as procrastination, my value of reason causes me to often ignore my 'gut', my stoicism sometimes prevents me from standing up for myself and being treated fairly, and my self-reliance/sufficiency can be fairly lonely.

    The items on the list all seem pretty petty/materialistic to me. The closest I can relate is that I consider myself successful in part because I'm a homeowner, and I find myself a bit jealous of people who have farther away neighbors than I do, which I hope to have someday myself.
     
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    Very few people have the strength of spirit to see themselves as an individual because they are frightened to make decisions they deem unpopular so they exchange their individuality for selection into a group e.g. Republicans, Democrats, BLM, NOW or whatever.

    This is clearly primate behavior and is seen in many other species.

    This is why shunning is so effective in human societies.
     
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    So how about you? :)
     
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    Good stuff.

    ...although I've always found folks who won't even have a beer now and then a bit suspicious...

    ...then again, I live in WA and won't touch weed, which prolly makes me seem a little suspicious too :beer:
     
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    Man, that Schlitz beer was so butt-awful that I just never went back. Plus, I was usually so hyper-involved in whatever my focus was through the years that drugs and alcohol would have simply been an unnecessary distraction.
     
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    Im white
    -39
    -speak english and read/write barely a smattering of espanol
    -lower middle class (still live like a King!)
    -BA -Fine Arts (yea, I laugh about it too)
    -900sf house, 1100sf shop
    -'84 Bronco, '83 Eagle, '12 Tundra (its work's, but I can drive for personal)
    -mostly work overalls, boots, camo joggers and punisher skull T's
    -see post #3

    Post#3 is the important stuff. I don't consider the rest of it very 'locus' of my identity.
     
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    Maybe I misunderstood the OP. Did he want to know what defines each of us, or did he want an answer to all the things he listed? I took it as if he was asking: Does your wealth define you? Does your race define you? etc... So I was thinking more in line with what you wrote in Post #3.

    Answering each of those things would be more like characteristics, not how one self-identifies. Maybe the OP can clear that up.
     
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    There is a school common sense philosophy which includes Thomas Reid and William James. It means way more than what is typically described as common sense and more rigorous. That’s how I tend to identify myself.
     
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    I define myself by my age.
     
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    That is very interesting. I don’t hear that one very much.
     
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    Not many people live to be 81.
     
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    My father made it and my great grandfather lived to 112. My grandfather made it to 99. So you’re in good company :)
     
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    1. Gender -- I believe in Modern World men are viewed as oppressors and experience much discrimination -- male DV victims are arrested rather then helped, men accused of Sexual Misconduct are presumed guilty, men get 61% more time for the same crime.

    2. Religion -- Jewish. I follow some Laws as a Conservadox Jew. In USA I have not experienced much anti-Semitism since High School 1985-'88.

    3. Proud to be an Aspie! -- I respect Normies. Many are doctors and lawyers, but I am proud to be Autistic. Some evil people believe that those who can not support themselves do not deserve support.

    4. Libertarian Egalitarian Liberal -- I support Welfare. I oppose guns. RIP 572,000 people in USA killed by guns 1999-2016.
     

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