What kind of anti-covid mask is best?

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    NOT ALL MASKS FILTER THE COVID-VIRUS BEST

    From here:
    Coronavirus: Face mask, face shield, FFP2, N95, KN95 — what's the difference?

    Excerpt:
    Also, from here:
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    'Nuff said? Employ a KN95 mask. KN95 and N95 masks have the same filtration factor. See here.

    So, what's the difference between them? The "KN95" models are of Chinese manufacture.
     
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  2. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Numerous lab tests conducted in the US since 1946 showed that the mask's efficacy in preventing the airborne transmission of virus cannot be determined.

    Last years test in Denmark regarding mask efficacy with SARS 2 showed the same thing.

    The masks are useless at preventing transmission, but they are great for hypercapnia and poor oral health.
     
  3. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're in serious denial.

    Anyway, some facts about buying the preferred mask (FFP2), from here:
    Coronavirus: Face mask, face shield, FFP2, N95, KN95 — what's the difference?

    The above was decided in Germany to get people OFF the simple cloth-masks and into a variety that truly functions.

    Yours to decide, boyz-'n-girlz, but the Chinese prices (in bulk) are really interesting. Volume Price from China (100 masks), example here ( US $ 0.07-0.12 / Piece).

    Just google "China Portable Respirator FFP2 Filter Face Mask with 4 Ply Non-Woven" ...

    PS:Why are the words "non-woven" important? Because any woven material with usage will "come apart" and leave spaces for the air breathed in to enter unfiltered.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not in serious denial. The study done in Denmark last year corroborated what dozens of lab tests done in this country starting in 1946 regarding masks and the airborne transmission of the flu virus showed--there is no science showing the efficacy of masks in such situations.

    That is further corroborated by anecdotal evidence in my circle of friends. I know 6 who wore the mask religiously, including 2 in the medical field, who became infected.
     
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    The study you quote from Denmark highly recommends wearing masks and your unspecified "starting in 1946 regarding masks" is the usual lack of information.
     
  6. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The before and after face-mask-usage numbers of Covid deaths speak for themselves. People started wearing the masks in Europe and they will continue to do so even after vaccinations.

    They are quite necessary to stem the viral-expansion and I disagree with saying otherwise - it does not help matters. The masks alone are a key deterrent.

    And the evidence in the matter is pertinent. From here: An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19

    Excerpt:
    I don't hold with the supposed pragmatism of cloth-masks and for a simple reason. Cloth is not solid, it is entwined-knitting of highly-thin threads into what seems to be impenetrable. They are penetrable when usage loosens the cloth-structure. Whereas the KN95 masks are not made out of cloth. They are made as described here:
    The intent is to provide an impenetrable face to the air surrounding the mask that may contain the virus breathed-out by those who contracted the disease ...
     
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    For a mere $328, one could be the proud owner of one of these. ;-)

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    If ur masking up all day, this is the only thing that will offer you meaningful protection, unless you are changing your face diaper frequently and with proper sanitary practices. Otherwise, after a short while, your just pulling virus back and forth through the cloth and touching a filter full of virus to spread to other surfaces or your own mucous membranes.

    MIRA Safety CM-7M Military Gas Mask Full-Face Respirator
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    The only thing masks do is create some degree of hypoxia and hypercapnia and cause filthy mouths and sinuses.

    Yes, of course they also identify one's membership in the Church of the Poisoned Mind.
     
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    I went to my garden center the other day. I hadn’t been there 20 seconds when I had to return to my car for water. The pollen and other irritants practically choked me and I went into a coughing fit. So if my mask didn’t filter out those particles, how is it going to protect me from a flu virus?
     
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    My KN95 works just fine.

    De gustibus non disputandum est ...
     
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    Last year, in my case, using the same type mask and my trusty oximeter, I saw hypoxia after 15 minutes. With hypoxia comes hypercapnia.

    Considering the masks don't prevent the airborne transmission of virus amongst humans, I'll pass.

    You mask nazis are responsible for the new litter everywhere, the disgustingly filthy masks you all discard. For shame.
     
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    They keep yer face warm when it's cold and you can have insulting slogans on the front...
     
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    Yes, and they signal one's status in the Church of The Poisoned Mind.
     
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    With your attitude I am surprised you even wear clothes they don't protect you from anything...
     
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    Weren't you the poster citing the wearing of masks by surgeons as good reason for the average person wearing a mask?
     
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    What kind of anti-covid mask is best?

    ......the kind other people wear.
     
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    If you were choking and coughing fits at a garden center, you either need to get a better mask (N95 should do it and the ones that need to all go around the back, not just hang on your ears) and wear it and breath it properly.

    And for those people can't bother to breath properly, have an oximeters and practice to ensure your breathing steady and even mildly breath deeply. Slow and steady wins the race!

    If someone is having "hypoxia" in 15 minutes, a person is not breathing properly or well, with or without a mask.

    A yoga class, any of the martial arts classes, meditation classes and others will fix that up easily.

    I have Stage 3 heart failure and that does help me remember proper breathing in any conditions.
     
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    I deliberately have not washed my cloth mask since the mandates began.
     
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    Unless it's a respirator, and it forms a fitted seal to the wearer, masks are all useless. If you put on a mask and you can feel air escaping when you breathe, you are not doing anything to stop a virus. The hospital I used to work at got cited/fined for not having the proper masks by the health department (pre-covid) and that is what they essentially told us. I do not remember what mask we ended up going with, but we had N95's at the time and because they did not "seal" around the face properly, they were not adequate. I can remember it was very hard to find a properly fitting/sized N95, with the suppliers we bought from, that would work for everyone.
     
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    It's amazing how many people think they are doing anything at all by wearing a cloth rag around their face. So many idiots...
     
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    I've never worn a mask outdoors. Here in Texas it's never been required to wear a mask outdoors. And now I'm not required to wear a mask at all... unless a federal building or private business requires it.

    April 27, 2021

    Biden says no masks outdoors for fully vaccinated people step toward 'normal living'

    " President Joe Biden on Tuesday reiterated the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) updated guidance that fully vaccinated individuals no longer need masks while outdoors except in crowded settings.

    The agency had released the new guidance shortly before Biden was set to provide an update on the pandemic.

    "Earlier today the CDC made an important announcement. Starting today if you are fully vaccinated and outdoors, not in a big crowd, you can go without a mask," the president said, noting that masks are still required in crowded spaces, such as a music concert, regardless if it is outdoors. "

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/cdc-fully-vaccinated-people-dont-need-masks-outdoors

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    Masks are the new virtue signal. It says, I obey to those in charge. They don't effectively protect the wearer from anyone else who is sick, and never have. And the idea that if you aren't infected that you should still wear one is ludicrous.

    I am fully vaccinated and there are still folks who demand that we wear a mask. why? it breaks down authority is not everyone is wearing them still.

    here's the thing though. If the vaccines aren't effective enough for me to stop wearing a mask, why did I spend real money getting them?
     
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    Because of peer pressure?
     

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