Why are Abortion supporters against dueling?

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are Abortion supporters against legalization of dueling?

    It seems they value choice above life, so why would they be against the idea of dueling?

    What argument is there, that fits within the pro-choice framework, that could be used to justify making dueling illegal?

    Is this another example of logical inconsistency and blatant hypocrisy?

    Should we bring back dueling?

    It seems a lot of the same arguments that apply to abortion (population control, prohibition doesn't work, personal choice, "it's better for society", possibility of driving participants to more dangerous alternatives, etc) could also be applied to dueling.
     
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    Need a citation to prove that people who may have had an abortion are against deuling...
     
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    Maybe pro-choicers could admit in this thread that they'd be okay with legalization of dueling?

    I'll be waiting for their posts, if any of them care to comment.


    I thought typically that the Left would be the side most against the idea, but the Left is also generally much more in favor of Abortion than the Right is.
    So it stands to reason (though not necessarily) that it is probably individuals against dueling who probably largely make up the group of individuals in favor of Abortion.
    It would be interesting to take a public opinion poll on this, though I suspect it would only confirm my suspicions.
     
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    I'm pro-choice (too many abused and neglected kids). We already practice dueling. It just happens in a courtroom.
     
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    Choosing not to have a baby is not the same as choosing to murder someone, you're confused

    no women should be forced to have her rapists baby
     
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    why do so called pro-lifers support the death penalty?

    be honest, they are not pro-lifers, they are anti-choicers
     
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  7. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Au contraire...


    How are the two different again?

    Some would say that dueling is not murder. Just like with abortion.

    At least with dueling both sides consented.
     
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    Never met a "pro" abortionists. That would be person who wants to force abortion as the one choice. Pro-choice means that the ability for the woman to make a choice is paramount, whether that be to carry to term or not. So this thread is another moronic attempt at childish bull crap.
     
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    We've already covered this in past threads. Because anti-aborters are against killing innocent life.

    Now, let's not try to derail the topic of the discussion here...
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what. A person who is in favor of legalization of dueling may not necessarily be "pro"-dueling. They might just be against use of legal force against two people who have decided they want to engage in this deadly activity.

    It's no different than Abortion.
     
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    Straw man - you now have to prove that someone who is pro-choice has even given dueling a passing thought.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Face it, even if no rapes happened, you'd still be in favor of Abortion.

    So that's just a red herring, in this discussion.
     
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    My whole point of this discussion was to illuminate how the logic pro-choicers apply to their position on the subject of Abortion is highly compartmentalized and inconsistent with the logic they apply to other political/social issues (double standards).

    This thread wasn't really meant to be specifically about the issue of dueling in particular, but that was just a convenient issue I realized could be used to help illustrate this, and prove the point.
     
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    I am so excited! I can hardly wait for the sequel to this thread : Bullfighting and Abortion!

    With a follow up thread : Abortion as it relates to lawn mowing! ( Sure Pro-Choicers believe women should have the same rights as everyone else but do they mow to 3" or 4" ??!!! )
     
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    I oppose restricting abortion (though I also am opposed to abortion) and I support legalizing dueling so long as all parties are in voluntary agreement and the duel is carried out in a manner that endangers only the duelers.
     
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    I love how pro-life people are pro-hunting and pro-death penalty.
     
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    Then their NOT pro-life.
     
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    Where is there a movement to make dueling legal?
     
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    "Collateral damage" in warfare, turning off life support for terminal patients, leaving people to die in the gutter if they can't support themselves, refusing entry to refugees fleeing for their lives? The great thin about double standards is that there are always enough to go around. :cool:
     
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    And are against entities that aid CHILDREN like Welfare, WIC, SNAP...….and once those FEMALE children grow up they want to take away their rights !!!



    """"Is this another example of logical inconsistency and blatant hypocrisy?""""
     
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    Hey , are ya talkin' pistols, swords, squirt guns or Nerf darts ???


    Just want make sure I got the details this "" Duels are like abortion" thing....
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh please, don't go there.
    The majority of those on the pro-choice side eat hamburgers.


    However, you want to talk about inconsistencies, see this old thread:
    How can you be a vegetarian, yet support abortion?
     
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    Easy, vegetarians don't eat fetuses...


    Here, ya "missed" one:

    Hey , are ya talkin' pistols, swords, squirt guns or Nerf darts ???


    Just want make sure I got the details this "" Duels are like abortion" thing....
     
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    Just like the claim to value human life disappears once the baby takes a breath. The righteous mind is always justified.
     
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    We're talking about dueling, like they did back in the day with pistols and paces? And this is being tied to abortion?

    It's less sensational than the slavery comparisons I suppose, but no less asinine.

    Anyway, here's why dueling is different than abortion.

    Both people in a duel are individuals who have been born.


    The End.

    Outro
    (Sounds of this comparison crashing and burning in flames. Camera pans over aftermath showing nothing but the scorched wreckage of a terrible argument).
     
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