Why Are Pro-Abort-Feminists So Angry?

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Here you go again with your specious and baseless denials after I have repeatedly shown you it's a baby in the womb not only citing medical resources but several government health resources. Are you denying that? And now you are confused into thinking killing the baby in the womb is now illegal, when was abortion banned, give me a link. And yes there are LOTS of pro-abortionist, those who support the practice of abortion in this country. You DO support the practice of abortion don't you? If not what do you have against abortion?
     
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    AVOIDED QUESTIONS :) :

    :PROVE someone is killing "babies" and do your civic, and legal, duty and report them....

    WHY HAVEN'T YOU??????


    Killing BABIES is against the law......so WHY haven't you reported there are people killing BABIES??

    DON'T BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR INACTION, TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CALL THE POLICE...
    """


    Funny how you think all life stages are ZEFs....I saw a bunch of zygotes and cells walking around the grocery store this morning...:)


    There are no "pro-Abortionists"...they are correctly called Pro-Choice since, unlike you, they believe women have the same rights as everyone else.

    THEY believe women can decide for themselves what to do with their pregnancies...
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    When was abortion repealed making the killing of the baby in the womb illegal? Cite the law. Give me the law and I will be happy to report it.

    Do you support abortions or not, do you support the laws allowing abortions or not? If you are against abortion then please explain why.


    Don't smoke. If you do, your baby smokes too. Moms who smoke have a greater chance of having a miscarriage, stillbirth, baby with low birth weight, and a child who grows up to smoke. If you smoke and want to quit, talk to your health care provider or check out the smoking-cessation programs.
    https://wa.kaiserpermanente.org/hea...AndWellness/pregnancy/pregnancy/overview.html
     
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    AVOIDED QUESTIONS :) :

    :PROVE someone is killing "babies" and do your civic, and legal, duty and report them....

    WHY HAVEN'T YOU??????

    Killing BABIES is against the law......so WHY haven't you reported there are people killing BABIES??

    DON'T BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR INACTION, TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CALL THE POLICE...
    """


    Funny how you think all life stages are ZEFs....I saw a bunch of zygotes and cells walking around the grocery store this morning...:)
     
  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ROFL - what "BABY" Prove that this single human cell is a baby.
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    I did as I have a gazillion times now show me where abortion was repealed and now illegal to kill the baby in the womb then I will start reporting any incidents I a aware of. And why do you make fallacious statements as in what you saw, because you can't defend your position on the merits? Babies go through lots of various developmental stages before and after birth, biology 101.

    Taking Care of You and Your Baby While You’re Pregnant
    https://familydoctor.org/taking-care-of-you-and-your-baby-while-youre-pregnant/
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    Not only for years but twice above. And for how long is the baby just single cell, how my abortions are at the single cell stage else what's your point?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First you need to figure out what a baby is - prior to moving on to more complex things.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    I am fully aware what is a baby, it is you and Fresh who are in denial. Need another source?

    How about the US Department Health and Human Resources?

    Health care for baby
    Right now, your OB or midwife is monitoring the health of your unborn baby.
    https://www.womenshealth.gov/pregnancy/getting-ready-baby/health-care-baby/

    Now address what I asked for how long is the baby just single cell, how my abortions are at the single cell stage else what's your point?
     
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    Guys, guys, guys. Pretty much a waste of time to get caught up in a conversation in a half-wit's obvious trolling attempt.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    AVOIDED QUESTIONS :) :

    :PROVE someone is killing "babies" and do your civic, and legal, duty and report them....

    WHY HAVEN'T YOU??????

    Killing BABIES is against the law......so WHY haven't you reported there are people killing BABIES??

    DON'T BLAME OTHERS FOR YOUR INACTION, TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND CALL THE POLICE...
    """


    Funny how you think all life stages are ZEFs....I saw a bunch of zygotes and cells walking around the grocery store this morning...:)
     
  12. btthegreat

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    Uh oh. Those nasty stats again. You gotta stop with those facts. Ruining the narrative. Some people will not have as much fun if you keep spoiling the story.
     
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  13. Bluesguy

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    Addressed directly with backup cites, lack of rebuttal noted. Now cite where abortion has been made illegal and it is now illegal to kill the baby in womb and I will start reporting them......:popcorn:

    Department of Health and Human Resources

    Prenatal care is the health care you get while you are pregnant. Take care of yourself and your baby by:

    • Getting early prenatal care. If you know you're pregnant, or think you might be, call your doctor to schedule a visit.
    • Getting regular prenatal care. Your doctor will schedule you for many checkups over the course of your pregnancy. Don't miss any — they are all important.
    • Following your doctor's advice.
    https://www.womenshealth.gov/a-z-topics/prenatal-care
     
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    HEALTH MYTH #1: “THE U.S. HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST INFANT MORTALITY RATES IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD.”
    "The U.S. ranks high on this list largely because this country numbers among those that actually measure neonatal deaths, notably in premature infant fatalities, unlike other countries that basically leave premature babies to die, notes health analyst Betsey McCaughey.

    Other statistical quirks push the U.S. unjustifiably higher in this ranking compared to other countries.

    The Center for Disease Control says the U.S. ranks 29th in the world for infant mortality rates, (according to the CDC), behind most other developed nations.

    The U.S. is supposedly worse than Singapore, Hong Kong, Greece, Northern Ireland, Cuba and Hungary. And the U.S. is supposedly on a par with Slovakia and Poland.

    CNN, the New York Times, numerous outlets across the country report the U.S. as abysmal in terms of infant mortality, without delving into what is behind this ranking.

    The Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit research group, routinely flunks the U.S. health system using the infant mortality rate.

    “Infant mortality and our comparison with the rest of the world continue to be an embarrassment to the United States,” Grace-Marie Turner, president of the Galen Institute, a research organization, has said.

    First, let’s start with the definition. The World Health Organization (WHO) defines a country’s infant mortality rate as the number of infants who die between birth and age one, per 1,000 live births.

    WHO says a live birth is when a baby shows any signs of life, even if, say, a low birth weight baby takes one, single breath, or has one heartbeat. While the U.S. uses this definition, other countries don’t and so don’t count premature or severely ill babies as live births-or deaths.

    The United States counts all births if they show any sign of life, regardless of prematurity or size or duration of life, notes Bernardine Healy, a former director of the National Institutes of Health and former president and chief executive of the American Red Cross (Healy noted this information in a column for U.S. News & World Report).

    And that includes stillbirths, which many other countries don’t report.

    And what counts as a birth varies from country to country. In Austria and Germany, fetal weight must be at least 500 grams (1 pound) before these countries count these infants as live births, Healy notes.

    In other parts of Europe, such as Switzerland, the fetus must be at least 30 centimeters (12 inches) long, Healy notes. In Belgium and France, births at less than 26 weeks of pregnancy are registered as lifeless, and are not counted, Healy says.

    And some countries don’t reliably register babies who die within the first 24 hours of birth, Healy notes.

    Norway, which has one of the lowest infant mortality rates, shows no better infant survival than the United States when you factor in Norway’s underweight infants that are not now counted, Healy says, quoting Nicholas Eberstadt, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute.

    Moreover, the ranking doesn’t take into account that the US has a diverse, heterogeneous population, Healy adds, unlike, say, in Iceland, which tracks all infant deaths regardless of factor, but has a population under 300,000 that is 94% homogenous.

    Likewise, Finland and Japan do not have the ethnic and cultural diversity of the U.S.’s 300 cm-plus citizens.

    Plus, the U.S. has a high rate of teen pregnancies, teens who smoke, who take drugs, who are obese and uneducated, all factors which cause higher infant mortality rates.

    And the US has more mothers taking fertility treatments, which keeps the rate of pregnancy high due to multiple-birth pregnancies.

    Again, the U.S. counts all of these infants as births. Moreover, we’re not losing healthy babies, as the scary stats imply. Most of the babies that die are either premature or born seriously ill, including those with congenital malformations.

    Even the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which collects the European numbers, cautions against using comparisons country-by-country.

    “Some of the international variation in infant and neonatal mortality rates may be due to variations among countries in registering practices of premature infants (whether they are reported as live births or not),” the OECD says.

    “In several countries, such as in the United States, Canada and the Nordic countries, very premature babies (with relatively low odds of survival) are registered as live births, which increases mortality rates compared with other countries that do not register them as live births.” (Note: Emphasis EMac’s).
    http://www.drwalt.com/blog/2009/07/...fant-mortality-rates-in-the-developed-world”/
     
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    Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics - a great book you should read it.
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    See above
     
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    You are justifying killing unborn babies because this warped woman killed her born babies.............................how sick.

    And you say you are not pro-abortion???
     
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    you can attack me all you want, but what is sick is forcing someone to have their rapists baby.....
     
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    I attack what you say the premise of your argument that is it better to kill the unborn baby so the mother doesn't kill it later is well....................I already said what it is.

    And what percent of abortions are due to rape? A woman who is raped does not have to get pregnant she can avoid that, Trying to justify ALL abortions because of the extremely rare case of rape is absurdity.

    So what do you personally have against abortion?
     
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    I am saying 4 children would have still been alive today if that one baby was not born.... are you so against abortion that with her mental state, you would deny her an abortion

    do you support plan b being added to all rape kits? that would help prevent abortions from being needed
     
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    I know exactly what you said you injected a woman who killed her 5 babies as some justification for killing unborn babies...................if already given my opinion of that excuse. And then pulled the RAPE RAPE RAPE when what percent of abortions are due to rape, you have not answered that.
     
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    WTF difference does the percentage make?? None.

    Women don't need an excuse to have an abortion, they just can! :) :) :)
     
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    yes, I said had that Christian of not had the 5th baby, the other 4 may still be alive... that is a true, you may not like it, but it's true

    and yes, it's sick to force rape victims to have their rapists babies, who would do that? not me.... would you?
     
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    Yes when you have nothing throw the rape card, what percent of abortions are due to rape? Why do you refuse to answer. And as you admitted a rape victim does NOT have to get pregnant, the pregnancy can be avoided.
     
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    It is the premise of your pro-abortion stance and unlimited unrestrained abortion, what percent of abortions are due to rape?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    WTF difference does the percentage make?? None.

    Women don't need an excuse to have an abortion, they just can! :) :) :)


    ,

    No, it isn't.
    I don't have a "pro-abortion" stance no matter how much your Righty Rabid Imagination works overtime.




    WTF difference does the percentage make?? None.

    Women don't need an excuse to have an abortion, they just can! :) :) :)
     

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