Why kill the innocent?

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  1. ECA

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    If none of your tax dollars are going towards funding abortions then why did you ask the question below?

     
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    Yaaaaa, ….and YOU had to be told that......again, did you have a POINT ?
     
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    But do keep up your endless irrelevant questions and total lack of a point.

    ...oh, I see you did...:)
     
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    Well sure, if you consider approximately 200 women per year dying because of having to self-induce abortion total bodily autonomy. I don't consider that option bodily autonomy. Clearly you do.
     
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    My point is that everyone born should have the basic human right of bodily autonomy.

    The fact that women's right to bodily autonomy was trampled didn't mean they didn't have it to begin with.
     
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    chris155au said:
    Does Roe v Wade mention anything about a woman's abortion being funded by the tax payer?




    What? !!! The right to abortion does not come from whether taxpayers pay for abortions or not...
     
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    I agree everyone should have bodily autonomy. But there were many who didn't...or at least didn't in a safe manor, have bodily autonomy when it came to abortions prior to RvW. In my opinion, putting ones life at risk due to a self-induced abortion isn't what I would call having bodily autonomy. And maybe I'm splitting hairs but I'm ok with that.
     
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    Yes, that's why I said"The fact that women's right to bodily autonomy was trampled didn't mean they didn't have it to begin with.""
    We are on the same page....but getting someone else to understand is a bit of a struggle..;)
     
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    Yup :D
     
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    Either women have ALWAYS had the right to bodily autonomy, or they haven't. It's really simple.
     
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    Correct, the right to abortion comes from Roe v Wade.
     
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    Even though they are doing what they want to their OWN body?
     
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    NO, we are ALL BORN with the right of bodily autonomy.

    RvW protected women's right to bodily autonomy by saying abortion can't be made illegal.

    IF abortion is banned that takes away women's right to bodily autonomy.
     
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    IF abortion is banned that takes away women's right to bodily autonomy.
     
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    It seems that you make a distinction between bodily autonomy and SAFE bodily autonomy. That's a pretty weird distinction. Either women have bodily autonomy or they don't.
     
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    we are ALL BORN with the right of bodily autonomy.

    RvW protected women's right to bodily autonomy by saying abortion can't be made illegal.

    IF abortion is banned that takes away women's right to bodily autonomy.
     
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    In the case where they self-induced, they didn't WANT to do that to their body. They had no choice. Hence why RvW now gives women the choice to have a safe procedure, which gives woman actual bodily autonomy.
     
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    No you're right...shoving a coat hanger up a vagina to induce an abortion is the bodily autonomy every women dreams about.
     
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    Well then I assume that you'd say that bodily autonomy was restricted prior to the invention of the safe abortion procedure that we have today.
     
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    RvW said nothing about "bodily autonomy."
     
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    When is it a 'baby' as far as you're concerned?
     
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    @quiller didn't say murder.
     
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    Because tax payers money is used. Why does it need to be MY money for me to care? Is that your standard for caring?
     
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    Oh...here I thought he was referring to women intentionally taking the life of another being. :rolleyes:
     
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    How much of tax payer dollars go towards abortions?
     
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