Why the Justice Department Is Defiant

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  1. Wehrwolfen

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    By Kimberley A. Strassel
    May 3, 2018


    The feud that has simmered for months between Congress and the Justice Department erupted this week into a cage match. That’s because the House is homing in on the goods.
    Until this week, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and fellow institutionalists at the department had fought Congress’s demands for information with the tools of banal bureaucracy—resist, delay, ignore, negotiate. But Mr. Rosenstein took things to a new level on Tuesday, accusing House Republicans of “threats,” extortion and wanting to “rummage” through department documents. A Wednesday New York Times story then dropped a new slur, claiming “Mr. Rosenstein and top FBI officials have come to suspect that some lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intelligence about [Special Counsel Bob Mueller’s ] investigation so that it could be shared with the White House.”
    Mr. Rosenstein isn’t worried about rummaging. That’s a diversion from the department’s opposite concern: that it is being asked to comply with very specific—potentially very revealing—demands. Two House sources confirm for me that the Justice Department was recently delivered first a classified House Intelligence Committee letter and then a subpoena (which arrived Monday) demanding documents related to a new line of inquiry about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s Trump investigation. The deadline for complying with the subpoena was Thursday afternoon, and the Justice Department flouted it. As the White House is undoubtedly monitoring any new congressional demands for information, it is likely that President Trump’s tweet Wednesday ripping the department for not turning over documents was in part a reference to this latest demand.
    Republicans also demand the FBI drop any objections to declassifying a section of the recently issued House Intelligence Committee report that deals with a briefing former FBI Director James Comey provided about former national security adviser Mike Flynn.

    Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-the-justice-department-is-defiant-1525388245

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    There still something weird about all this that’s hard to wrap one’s head around.
    Lets say it is worst case scenario: That the DOJ has gone rogue against the rest of the government, with the FBI in tow, and the congress cannot execute oversight due to stonewalling, and the executive branch which should have control if it cannot because the President is said to be under investigation and removal of corrupt/rogue figures would be called interference. You then have no one left to prosecute or reign in the threat, as the CIA and NSA are charged with dealing with foreign threats, not domestic/internal. You have the outside shot that Utah prosecutor appointed by session can investigate this, but they are actually charged with investigating the FBI/DOJ, so who would Huber call upon for protection if the rogue powers wanted to coerce/corrupt/intimidate/obstruct them? Federal Marshals?
    This all just doesn’t wash.
    Theoretically, if this was certain people gone rogue to protect themselves (because of Uranium one?) and all the right people in congress and the supreme court were informed, Trump could fire them all, order their clearances removed, and let the all the good cops and judges to their jobs.

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    You ain't lyin':

    Mueller conflict.jpg
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. Justice Department is created, June 23, 1870
      https://www.politico.com/story/2011/06/justice-department-is...
      Jun 22, 2011 · On this day in 1870, President Ulysses S. Grant signed into law a bill creating the Justice Department. In the early years of the Republic, the attorney general of the United States, a position established by Congress in the Judiciary Act of 1789, was a part-time job held by a single individual.

    2. United States Department of Justice
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice
      On February 19, 1868, Lawrence introduced a bill in Congress to create the Department of Justice. President Ulysses S. Grant signed the bill into law on June 22, 1870.
      • Formed: July 1, 1870; 147 years ago
      • Employees: 113,543 (2012)
      • Annual budget: $31 billion (2015)
      • Jurisdiction: Federal government of the United States of America and it territories
    3. The Creation of the Department of Justice
      https://www.stanfordlawreview.org/print/article/the-creation-of...
      The Creation of the Department of Justice ... More recent scholarship contends that Congress created the DOJ to enforce Reconstruction and ex-slaves’ civil rights.
    The Department of Justice answers to Congress and the President. They are not an autonomous entity unto themselves.
     
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    Yet that is exactly how they are acting by refusing oversight.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you wanna engage and bring the Lefties to the thread, use key words - russian, collusion, stormy :love:
     
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    And racism, white, male, and Christian
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Progressive Marxist Socialist Democrats works too. A little long and close to P.C. but it does show they're Commies.
     
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    Strassel is one of the best around - the way all honest journalists should be. Journalism can only survive if there are more Kim Strassels but, largely because of the very biased MSM, more people than ever are getting their news from the Internet.
     
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    Either Sessions turned into a SJW lefty overnight....
    Or you’re being fed BS by RW blogs and nutty congressman l

    Which seems more likely?
     
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    lawmakers were using their oversight authority to gain intelligence about [Special Counsel Bob Mueller’s ] investigation so that it could be shared with the White House.”

    One of their names rhymes with Nevin Dunes
     
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    ....who was also turned down for position of Director of the FBI by Trump days earlier.
     
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    I've been following info about House Rep DeSantis' this past week wanting to hold Rosenstein accountable for documents relating to their investigation.

    According to DeSantis, "(Rosenstein) appointed a special counsel to deal with (FBI Director James) Comey's firing that he himself recommended. And then he signed one of the FISA warrants in 2017, that's the subject of this. So, he's a part of this and I think certainly Jeff Sessions should not be recused from this part."

    "So, let's get the facts and let's have some accountability."

    Read more,
    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/ron-desantis-threatens-rosenstein-contempt/2018/05/03/id/858196/

    The House has drawn up impeachment documents, FOR ROSENSTEIN, if he refuses to follow through with the requested documents.

    Steve
     
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