Why was it great what Democrats did in 2017 yet wrong for Republicans in 2021?

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No I quoted the entire law.

    He incited a mob to disrupt the legal constitutional function of Congress. It can't be any clearer.

    The evidence is overwhelming with much of it captured digitally and much of that by the perps themselves.

    But by all means keep trying to weasel with the "show me the exact words" defense. That isn't a court room defense, that a public opinion defense. And frankly its up to the senate to determine his guilt as far as impeachment is concerned.

    And lets' not forget that the AG, and a fair number of local DA's will be investigating and charging, and lets not even start with the pile of potential civil suits (think OJ). I predict courts of law will be rather busy with Donnie Peachs for some time to come.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep another bigly trumpian win for you. All that winning you guys have been doing is impressive and only 400,000 dead.
     
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    Josef Biden admits he put together the best Voter Fraud operation in history.

    Love to read his actual words please
     
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    Nothing here changes the fact you know you cannot present the evidence necessary to support a charge of sedition.
    Disagree?
    Cite. Copy. Paste.
     
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    Nothing here changes the fact you know you cannot meet the challenge put to you.
    Disagree?
    Cite. Copy. Paste.
     
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    And to do so with any degree of intellectual honestly, you have to cite his words and actions to that effect.
    Which you know you cannot do.
    Disagree?
    Cite. Copy. Paste.
     
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    Did you notice how you avoided actually addressing the issue put to you and tried to change the subject?
    I did,
     
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    You know your claim is false.
    Disagree?
    Cite. Copy. Paste.
     
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    What SPECIFIC PART and how. You simply declaring he did so is a chevy. And if the evidence was so overwhelming it would have been in the Articles of Impeachment and you would no problem stating clearly and concisely. Law enforcement including the FBI ARE investigating and have been investigating from the getgo. And I am all for arrest and full prosecution of those who engaged in crimes including insurrection if it can be proven. But now I see you move goal the goal post to civil lawsuits and claim Trump could be subject to some kind of civil lawsuit. Well then let's let all the business that were burned and looted after Harris aided and abetted the leftwing insurrection sue her.
     
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    They are trying to get Republican Congressmen removed!!!


    Democratic senator claims some GOP members ‘are bordering on sedition and treason’

    Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., said that some Republican lawmakers who are refusing to accept Joe Biden as president-elect "are bordering on sedition and treason."
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-senator-some-gop-members-bordering-sedition-treason
    Let alone trying to make sure former Trump officials can't gain employment and having having book burnings, and reeducation and reprograming
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again. My opinion and yours differ. Since the senate trial is not a criminal trial I leave it to individual senators interpretation of what trump did.
    I know you support hunting down and charging the insurrectionists that descrated the capitol.

    As for lawsuits, were there any injured parties in that MAGA riot?

    As for other charges, the DC DA has a clear shot at Donnie Peachs, as just one fer instance.

    And of course you'd attempt to eqivocate. You just can't help yourself and I bet you arent even aware of this seemingly burned in response pattern.
     
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    they are going to remove those who want them dead, do you really have a problem with that?? lol
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    run the tape, review the time line from announcement of the SAVE AMERICA rally to the clustermuck itself. You say no, I say yes. let the senate, and then the DOJ, and then the local DA to decide. And if plaintiffs come forward with civil suits over permanent injury/harm/wrongful death, the civil courts will decide.

    You and me? we get to quibble. so here's my take.

    My contention is that the whole of the evidence makes it a open and shut case. The only issue is if enough republicans find their balls and put country over party.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    slippery bastard eh? See how easy it is?
     
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    Onus is -fully- on you to support your claim.
    Which you know you cannot do.
    Disagree?
    Cite. Copy. Paste.
     
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    For you to avoid the truth that you know you cannot support your claims?
    Nope.
    Disagree?
    Cite. Copy. Paste.
     
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    February 1, 2016: At a campaign rally in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Trump told the crowd that his security team informed him there may be somebody throwing tomatoes. “If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously. Just knock the hell out of them. I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise. There won’t be so much of them because the courts agree with us,” he said.
    October 18, 2018: At a rally in Montana, Trump celebrated Republican Rep. Greg Gianforte, who body-slammed a reporter in May 2017, telling the crowd, “Any guy who can do a body-slam ... he’s my guy.”

    Trump’s history of inciting violence in words and tweets: A timeline from 2015 through the Capitol attack - Vox
     
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    Don Donnie Peachs. Maga Mob Boss.
     
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    Yeah, we get that you're trying to argue that apples and oranges are the same thing.
     
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    The world is a very confusing place for you, isn't it.
     
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    This speaks volumes of the Democratic party.

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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How else can he construct a double standard?

    in the manual "How to construct a response to uncomfortable truths" its standard tactic #4 False equivalency. Right up there with ad hom, strawman, projection and anecdote.
     
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    Like Trump, you salt your accusation with a lot of hyperboli, but cannot offer any valid, documented evidence to support your assertions. Are you going to spend the next 4 years parroting this bilge for a man who essentially wipes his feet on you?
     
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    You do know about Nixon's Southern Strategy, right? Or did Candace Owens tell you to ignore that part of history too?
     
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    Someone needs to clue Lamar in.....the GOP had their day in court....AND LOST 60 TIMES! Trump appointed judges said no fraud. GOP governors said the same. They complained, they were heard, they lost. The end.
     

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