Will the True Nazis Please step forward?

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  1. usfan

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    There has been a more than usual frenzy of 'Nazis!' and 'Racists' from the left, recently, even though those have been their favorite arguments for decades. But instead of using terms as mere smear tactics, or pounding a drum of propaganda, let us look at the facts, to determine WHO, exactly resembles the ideology of Nazis & Racists. Let us examine the real tactics of the Nazis, & see if there is any resemblance to the current public discourse.
    1. Demonize the target opposition. The nazis dehumanized the jews, portraying them as hateful, evil, bigots, who ate german children & were enemies of the peace loving National Socialist party. [​IMG]
    2. Respond with violence & intimidation to any public display of opposition. Nazis would go on the offensive, toward any competitors for the public governance. Communists, anarchists, supporters of Hindenburg.. anyone who dared oppose the National Socialists were met with violence, threats, & smear campaigns.[​IMG]
    3. Propaganda. The Nazis were masters at propaganda, which they used to mold public opinion in their favor. Lies, distortions, phony narratives.. anything was fair game to twist & pervert into their propaganda machine. 'Make the lie big, repeat it often' was their mantra.[​IMG]
    4. Elitism. The Nazis claimed evolved superiority..they were wise & elite, & better equipped to manage the affairs of the common man. Give them the power, & they would build a Utopian paradise.[​IMG]
    Now if all of this sounds familiar, it is because it is. These are the exact tactics of the left, as they pound their propaganda drum with furious frenzy. They demonize the opposition, smearing conservative Americans as being 'racist!' & 'Nazi!!' They are relentless in their caricatures of traditional Americans, and attack them with physical violence, on any open forum. They try to intimidate with lies, smears, & phony caricatures, & prohibit any alternate expression, or traditional American values, which they smear as 'racist!' They pretend to be elites, wiser & smarter than everyone else, which gives them the right to lord it over everyone else, in their minds.

    So, who actually ARE the real Nazis, here?
     
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    Not a current event.
     
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    ..mods can move it, if they like. It seemed pretty current to me.
     
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    Since Nazis are the left's rage de jour it certainly seems current to me. And the OP is dead accurate, only a person who's totally dishonest would disagree
     
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    Only because we saw them marching through the streets and your president gave aid and comfort to those supporting them.
     
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    The guys with the swastikas. Those are the Nazis. Easy.
     
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    Trump just pardoned a cop in willful violation of a court order and known for severe abuses of power.

    = The nazi president.
     
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    Lol, you seriously expect us to just ignore the people waving Nazi flags, throwing Nazi salutes and self-identifying as Nazis. Really? :roflol:
     
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    Please don't pollute the hyperbole with facts. It confuses the natives.
     
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    Definitely destined for the Opinion Forum, but yeah: I don't call 'em the AltLefTaliban for nothing...
     
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    anecdotal evidence, like flags or signs, are too vague & difficult to quantify.. WHO uses them, where they originated, were they a plant for propaganda purposes, etc. I am examining the ACTIONS, WORDS, & IDEALS of the groups that bandy about the smear terms, 'Nazi!' and 'Racist!'

    The tea party had events that were proved to be infiltrated by leftists, carrying racist signs & attempting to smear by association. I have no doubt that this practice has continued, since it is an effective propaganda meme.. showing some conservatives marching with racist signs.

    But the goals & tactics are what is being examined, not the pretenses.
     
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    Big deal.
    They call people names that hurt their feelings. All 500 of them too, very scary.

    Meanwhile the uniparty is destroying us.
    But nobody cares. These dumbasses pretend Nazis are the real threat
     
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    I only see one guy with a swastika. Does that make him a nazi? A wacko? A leftist plant? I don't know how you can determine anything from this single photo.. but it does not deter the left from painting with a broad brush, everyone in the same picture with this 'guy'. IOW, this is a propaganda meme.. no evidence of 'Racism!'
     
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    The alt-right uses the exact same tactics you describe. While also having self-identified racists and Nazis among them.
     
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    Lol, one guy? Did you see any pictures from the rally at all? And the entire OP is dedicated to painting with a much, much broader brush.
     
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    The Nazis are the ones chanting "Blood and soil" and “Jews will not replace us" in a rally, theoretically to protest against the takedown of Confederate monuments.
     
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    Aid and comfort? Really? Perhaps you should listen for yourself what Trump said rather than have CNN tell you their version of it.
     
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    "Will the True Nazis Please step forward?"

    They already have. They're the ones calling themselves Nazis, wearing Nazi regalia, carrying Nazi symbols, and speaking Nazi rhetoric.

    I'm not sure why you're having so much of a problem identifying them.
     
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    So, how about the intimidation & violence, from the left, to try to silence the opposition's discourse? How about the complicity from the main stream media, in carefully crafting the narrative, editing, omitting details, making assumptions, promoting caricatures? Are these not all 'Nazi!' tactics? Conservative Americans don't organize 'counter protests' against any leftist causes.. very few, anyway. Why does the left attack & disparage the right with such blatantly nazi tactics?
     
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    Only a person who is unable to make a coherent argument would base their post on an opinion that calls all others who disagree totally dishonest.
     
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    Definitely a current issue.

    There are NO "Nazis" in the USA. There are radicals on all sides, including dangerous ones, but no "Nazis."
     
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    I doubt you can identify them. all you have is propaganda, from leftist sources, telling you about 'All these nazis!!' Have you identified them? You know their agendas, organizations, leaders, etc? Or are these just mysterious 'boogie men!'? Wackos, or leftist plants.
    I reject the phony narrative that all conservatives are nazi sympathizers, racists, & full of hate & bigotry. If anything, that is the MO of the left, who are the true 'national socialists' wanting elitist rule & nanny state control.
     
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    Show me. Name one conservative group that uses these nazi 'tactics', that the left uses. Also, show me ONE 'self-identified' racist & Nazi who is part of any mainstream political group.

    Now, i will admit, that there are racists & wackos in any party. But i reject the phony narrative.. the propaganda caricature of 'conservatives are racist nazis!' The left is MUCH MORE nazi-like than anyone on the right, even if they pretend to be nazis. It is the IDEOLOGY & ACTIONS, not just the label, that makes you what you are.
     
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    So you are saying the delegate at the Democratic National Convention holding up a PLO flag was a Palestinian, meaning not legally a delegate? Everyone holding a Mexican flag in the USA is a Mexican citizen for which all should be detained and questioned by ICE asking for their VISAs?

    I have no doubt of those few holding Nazi flags over half were undercover law enforcement and people trying to be clever in a false flag stunt. I recall years ago a KKK meeting was 100% undercover law enforcement except the one person they were trying to entrap in a criminal conspiracy charge.

    There are no actual Nazis in the USA. Just a few nut cases who like to wear costumes and likely play video games in a basement.
     
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    Since some carry huge banners reading "Democratic Socialists" that is a fair conclusion.
     

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