Will you Please Wear A Mask Now

We probably will.

The viral load is the problem. The less exposure you have, the less symptoms you'll have. If everyone is out there breathing on everyone else, the viral load goes way up; people get sicker. Science is hard, though. It requires thinking. Saying, "muh freedom," is a whole lot easier.

 

LOL. Your definition of tyranny is truly bizarre.

They put airbags in my car to keep me safe! TYRANNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Safety precautions aren't tyranny.

 

The victims of tyranny. What are you, some kind of a parental tyrant?

 

When they come to strap a permanent mask around your head, whether you want one or not, you'll know what tyranny is.

 

I suppose you think speed limits are tyranny.
All I'm hearing from you is ''wah, you can't tell me what to do''.
You're behaving like a petulant child and wondering why you and others like you have to be treated like children.

 

Until then, it's just a safety precaution.

You are required to wear shoes & shirts in places of business. Tyranny?

 

I'm behaving like a freedom-loving American. And you're behaving like a dictatorial tyrant. Every post you make only further proves my point.

 

No. Unlike you, I know tyranny when I see it.

 

I'd like my elderly mother to have the freedom to leave her house but unfortunately, that relies on children like you complying with the best scientific medical advice.
For every child like you screaming about freedumb there are a thousand vulnerable people locked in their homes because you won't do what is best for the rest of society.

 

Shoes? Okay
Shirts? Okay
Seat belts? Okay
Food servers washing hands? Okay
Speed limits? Okay
Mask? Tyranny.

You sound silly. I'm starting to think you're just trolling. TTFN.

 

When a person's whole argument revolves around the concept that having to wear a mask to protect others is tyranny you know they actually have nothing to say.

 

I'm not a child, I'm an adult, and as an adult, I know enough to take ownership of my own life, both its ups and downs; just as others take ownership of their own lives, both their ups and downs.

Maybe when you become an adult, you will see it the same way, and stop blaming your ups and downs upon those who have no part in your life, or who would even want a part in your blame-game life.

 

It's not all about you.

 

Your premise that a mask protects others is a flawed assumption, which makes your whole argument a flawed assumption, and a very dangerous one at that. Masks give people a false sense of security, and it's that false sense of security that gives them the very disease they think they're being protected from.

The latest flare-up in cases is just further proof. The more the mask-wearing, the more the cases.

 

Yes, it is. My life is all about me, just as your life is all about you. This is why I make my own judgments about what is best for me, and why you should do the same. To do otherwise is to throw your life into the wind of others, and hope it has a safe landing.

Science exists to serve the interests of the public, not the public to serve the interests of science. If the science is found to be credible, the people will follow; if the science is still questionable, the people beware.

 

Citizens are children, otherwise they would not need a government

 

You obviously don't understand the point of masks. It protects others from YOU. It does nothing to help you.

Damn, you are a selfish person. Bleep my fellow citizens, I hate government.

Government: Hurricane is coming - prepare.
Pol Meister: Tyranny - don't tell me what to do!

Face palm.

 

^ a poster who gets it.

Deaths are not the whole story. The pain and suffering and curtailed life both in productivity and in life expectancy with a huge healthcare cost burden is what awaits the very numerous people who will come out of this with permanent lung scars, strokes, insufficient kidneys, weakened hearts, and neuropsychiatric damage. A recent study in Germany which I quoted this morning in one of my posts (and did a much more extensive analysis of the implications for the US population which I won't repeat here because it is too long), found 78% with heart damage among 100 people they followed after "recovery" - and two thirds of them included mild to moderate cases who never needed to go to the hospital during the acute phase but were well enough to recover at home. In my opinion this is the scariest finding so far, given that there is a strong likelihood that these people will end up in heart failure in the relatively near future. Here an article about this study (and that's not from "main stream media" but rather from a medical trade journal:

https://www.mdedge.com/cardiology/article/226328/heart-failure/heart-damage-even-after-covid-19-recovery-evokes-specter?ecd=wnl_evn_200731_mdedge_8pm&uac=350649AJ&utm_source=News_MDedge_eNL_073120_F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Heart damage after COVID-19 ‘recovery’ evokes fear of later HF

And here is the study itself:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916

Again, not "main stream media" - this is from the JAMA, one of the top 5 medical journals in the world, and one that hasn't been tainted by any fraudulent study. This is serious and reliable, folks.

What is scary about it? The problem happened INDEPENDENTLY OF UNDERLYING MEDICAL CONDITIONS. The 100 patients were not the elderly and frail. They were between the ages of 45 and 53. They were not obese (BMI between 23 and 2. Blood pressure ranges were between 125 to 133 for systolic and 76 to 83 for diastolic (pretty typical of the age range and not too bad at all). While up to 22% of the patients had underlying medical conditions, 78% had the heart damage from the virus (confirmed by lymphocitic inflammation of the heart fibers, troponion levels, and CMR), so WAY BEYOND the infirm ones.

This study is a devastating blow to the notion that only the old and infirm need to worry, and should serve as a cautionary tale for those who think it's OK to just go out and allow the virus to take hold, for herd immunity. In view of this study it is much more prudent to avoid the infection now, and hope for an effective vaccine which may be coming relatively soon.

Death is not the only bad consequence of this virus. My own brother is an example: had an asymptomatic case, and one week later after he had already tested negative, had a devastating stroke, one of the common features that are hitting people right after recovery. These do not fatten the death toll stats, but they are unwell and permanently crippled. I saw on TV last evening a pretty young woman, 20 years old, previously 100% healthy, who lost one lung to COVI-19. She will live the rest of her life with only one lung. I know a middle-aged man with only one lung and his quality of life is miserable, so the poor young woman is in permanent trouble and her life will be a shadow of what it would have been without this nasty disease. She gave a halting interview on TV saying that she didn't feel that the threat concerned her and went unmasked to bars and restaurants, and now profoundly regrets it as her life is changed forever. Sad.

Sure, these are just two anecdotal cases, but studies are finding, more and more, a significant percentage of people with serious and permanent health consequences (like the study above), and that's not anecdotal. That's reality.

Anybody who thinks this is a little flu and no big deal and only the old and infirm have something to fear, should read the links above.

This is not fearmongering. This is being realistic. This is a serious illness. And I don't understand the denial which usually comes from the right side of the political spectrum, because Trump doesn't stop calling the virus "nasty" and "very dangerous" and "vicious" so is your beloved president lying when he characterizes the virus this way? No. In this, he is absolutely right.

 

It's also a perfect display of how a mask can reduce emission to others, but kill the mask wearer in the process.

 

If you're on the cutting edge of fear and panic, the vape video indicates that masks are useless. Now they say the aerosol particles can "waft through the air and accumulate over time".

Wearing a mask does not mean that one is not "wafting". LOL



https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02058-1

 

Think of the smoke as the covid virus. Do you really want to be the mask wearer? Why try to reduce your emission to others, only to end up inhaling more of it yourself?

 

Wear a mask in public.
Practice manual hygiene frequently.
Observe social distancing.
Avoid large gatherings, especially ones indoors.
Ignore crackpot claims that the above precautions are futile or harmful.​

 

Net result of government dogma: 4 million cases of covid, 150,000 dead, riots in the streets, businesses shutdown, schools closing, and the economy in a downward spiral.

 

Are you really this obtuse?
If you are emitting the virus you already have covid 19.
You aren't going to infect yourself by reducing your emissions. You are already infected. What you are going to do is reduce the chances of infecting someone else.

 

I have no idea what you're talking about, and I don't think you do either.