Anything to refute this statement? I gather not. You obviously have not examined this subject at all, have you? Try reading http://unfccc.int/meetings/cancun_nov_2010/meeting/6266.php Follow some of the links, you will see that this will be a very extensively funded project and yes it will be billions that Australia has Signed to. Or is it that you do not believe Combet signed Australia up to it? Actually I do have a little IDEA, which is much more that I can say for you. Yes, the agreement is for on going funding, Which will be evaluated by several points. It is to be evaluated by the COP of which Australia has agreed to abide and yes in the 8 years this agreement stands for Billions will not only flow to the UN it will be used to aid the less developed nations in the immediate region of Australia. Please provide evidence of this claim of FOREIGN AID BUDGET. Again I never said it was anything thing to do with ETS revenue, that would be your claim. I said it is already allocated to be payed to the startup fund, And just to be clear, it is a yearly contribution, for the next 3 years which if you are slow on maths $1.797 billion. this funding actually is not part of the ongoing funding of this agreement. perhaps, you should leave this alone, yes it continues to show bigotry. Not my issue. Don't know. So, I am guessing you believe, because Others are not opposing something, your right? seems a silly point and rather irrelevant to me, but whatever sails your boat. Oh, by the way, what makes you think I Oppose it? I never claimed I did. Actually, I have not said either way.
Oh I am sorry, I see your are trying to create a logical fallacy. No I did not post PROOF OF 'Fact is Billions of dollars raised by the Australian carbon tax will end up overseas countries.' I provided proof that Billions of dollars is already flowing overseas. Sorry my bad, I should have simply pointed out, even if there is as little as 100 million committed, then yes BILLIONS of dollars will travel overseas from the Carbon Tax revenue. But I must also point out that your big objection to Abbott's direct action plan is that he uses Tax payers money. So tell me, What Money did Gillard use to pay Australia's contribution to the $32 billion dollars start up fund and the commitment of $599 million YEAR for the next 3 years? Could you please provide evidence of where I claimed this not to be true? Fact is, that I have agreed to it and showed how hypocritical you are. When you claim that you object to Abbott's direct action plan because it used tax payer money. So far, I address all your demands, But you make statements and provide nothing. So I gather it is not your strong point to address what is asked of you. Come on, answer these- Do you believe that Combet signed Australia up to it? Please provide evidence of this claim of FOREIGN AID BUDGET So, I am guessing you believe, because Others are not opposing something, your right? Oh, by the way, what makes you think I Oppose it? And A new one that has not been asked and I know you will never answer What evidence or preconceived IDEA do you have that makes this statement incorrect?
lol. So no garry, you cannot provide any evidence that it is a 'fact' that 'billions' raised by the ets will go to this fund. All you can say is that it MIGHT happen. So then, is it a 'fact'? Do you maintain that it's a 'fact'? What is your definition of a 'fact'? Something you can't prove, but that you think will probably happen? lol. There is a LONG way to go before there are any more agreements in regards to this fund, and frankly it's not looking overwhelmingly positive. And the $599 million is part of AusAid, I put up a link before. The money was committed before this ETS was even formulated by the multi party committee. The 'commitments' made on the Green Climate Fund were part of an Ad Hoc working group and are not legally binding. It's going to take a lot of work, and significant progress in talks before ETS revenue will actually be allocated to the fund. Climate talks haven't exactly been amazingly successful in the last few years. And oh my god, the $599 million is not a 'yearly contribution'. It is a contribution OVER 3 YEARS. That's $200 million a year garry. If Abbott is also going to contribute to the UN fund, and yet isn't raising any extra revenue, I'd say that is a pretty dam significant point to raise. But you probably don't care, because you're not Australian and you're not going to vote for anyone anyway!
Read this document you idiot, and its right form the lips of your beloved troll queen. In a government document released in September 2010 by the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade titled Australia: Candidate for the United Nations Security Council 2013-14 there is a message from Julia Gillard Prime Minister of Australia, this is the 3rd paragraph of that message: The importance of the Security Council to the maintenance of international peace and security is as great now as it ever has been. Not since the founding of the United Nations have we faced such uncertain times, when the contours of a new world order are emerging but not yet apparent. The Council needs members who are not only willing to support it with words, but also through deeds .. http://www.wakeup2thelies.com/2011/...orld-order-are-emerging-but-not-yet-apparent/
lol, I've read the document. AND??? WHAT??? Are you saying that we should go maverick and resign from the UN? That we should act against the UNSC? That we should not support the UNSC? Are you saying that our co-operation with global action on climate change is just a front for us to get a seat a temporary seat on the UNSC? What point are you actually trying to make with that brochure? Or is this just more ridiculous "New World Order" conspiracy nonsense?
Where doe is say "10% of ETS revenue is going to the UN". Remember? You told us this: I don't know how many times you need to make things up or why you even do it - but don't you think it is time you showed us some evidence to support this or apologise for telling lies?
What's "exactly right"? I asked questions, I didn't give any answers lol. What is wrong with Australia lobbying for a temporary seat on the UNSC?
HERE IS THE LINK ONE MORE TIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xv3OLKsQ83k#t=0s
Its a "New World Order" conspiracy because your troll queen was caught red-handed admitting in the link I provided to you that the UN was the new World Order, but has not shown the rest of the world its new face just yet. Do you have a block a shyte between your ears or something? The witch said it from her own lips and you won't believe it - well I'm glad your face will be in her arse, because I know that's not where REAL chocolate comes from, but she has you fooled big time.. Hey, you're not the troll queens hairdresser are you?
Is that is?!?!? WTF?!?! Not sure what your video is supposed to show. Just Julie Bishop talking the same sort of crap you are - and the PM looking just as confused as we all are about this crap you are making up. So it seems at least you are parrotting Julie Bishop now rather than Jones or Bolt. (But I suppose she gets all her ideas from Jones or Bolt anyway) Can't you show us any actual evidence that "10% of ETS revenue is going to the UN".?!?!?! And if not - why do you keep repeating it like it is a fact?
Great to see the greens vote drop in the QLD state election, and to see the ALP get smashed so bloody hard. As it stands right now the ALP might not even retain party status. Bring on a federal election so we can do the same there!
That is funny because if you know anything about politics you would know the the two elections are completely different. The Greens are much stronger nationally than in Queensland and poll higher and 80% of their preferences go to Labor which doesn't happen in QLD. Labor have the preferred leader according to the polling and 2PP is far closer than Queensland and has been getting closer recently. How about you actually look at the facts.
The next fed election will be a Lib win and a reduction of the green vote. There is anger out there for the left over the carbon tax lie and the back room deals. How about you address that fact little man.
LOL. I must admit that is the first time that I have been called little in a long time. The Liberals might win the election and The Greens vote might go down but thinking that it would be anywhere near as bad as NSW or QLD is downright idiotic.
NOTHING could save the ALP from their own lies.. The voters will get the last laugh on the bloody red troll.
Ffs efjay. The budgie smuggler admits that he's the biggest liar of them all and he does it to win votes and so you can't trust him, the only truthful thing he's ever said. He has the EXACT same policies as the ALP and has said that, and then said that he only opposes them when the ALP puts them forth because he's the opposition leaders. Something else you never seem to get.
lol, this just keeps getting better and better. Do you deny that there was a "new world order" after WW2? As power shifted from Europe to the USA? Do you deny that power is now shifting from the USA to Asia? She didn't say that the UN "was the 'New World Order'", she said "Not since the founding of the United Nations have we faced such uncertain times, when the contours of a new world order are emerging but not yet apparent." The world is rearranging itself, if we have a seat on the UNSC we have more power to influence events in our favour. Simple as that really. Or would you prefer we withdraw from the UN, reject international law, reject free trade, and put a barrier up between ourselves and the rest of the world. Become a paranoid mess like North Korea? Yeah, let's do that, that sounds SMART.
