Everything Should Be Cut In Economic Crisis

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you do not make cuts to the safety nets when people need them most... a down economy is when we need them most

    but you do cut all entitlement for the rich as they need them the least, and that including cutting the rich tax cuts


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  2. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    In what country has that ever worked? John Maynard Keynes was an idiot. without his, and the foolish ideas of marx, lenin, mao, and a few others, the entire world would be a better place.

    Liberal theory does not work, never has, never will. "....eventualy you run out of other people's money" Thatcher.
     
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    ragin cajun New Member

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    No, they were right and we are now seeing the effects of it.
     
  4. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    I agree, but you don't solve a problem just by throwing money at it.
     
  5. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    You mean a massive economy with a much higher standard of living? What horrible effects!
     
  6. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    Sure you do. If you break an arm how do you solve that problem?
     
  7. ragin cajun

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    If we take all of the wealth and all of the income of the top 2% it will not fix the problem. Why is that so hard for you libs to grasp? Why is obama obsessed with raising taxes on the rich when he knows that will not fix the problem?

    Here's why, because between him and the state controlled media they believe that is the way to destroy the republican party----and thats really what is going on here----an attempt to make the US a one party system.
     
  8. TheTaoOfBill

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    America. This is how we got out of the great depression. It's how we grew our country at a record pace in the 50s and 60s. And it's how we ended the recession in 2009.
     
  9. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    if the doc charges you $100 for a cast, will it heal faster if you give him $10,000?
     
  10. ragin cajun

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    Yes, because FDR and his followers wanted a quick fix rather than letting the economy recover naturally, we are today suffering from that thought process.
     
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    If it cost $100 why would you give him $10,000?
     
  12. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    You set the bone and put a cast or a splint on it.
     
  13. ragin cajun

    ragin cajun New Member

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    because you think that throwing money at a problem will fix it faster,,,thats what you are advocating for the economy.
     
  14. TheTaoOfBill

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    You're building a strawman. he's not arguing to pay more than something is worth. He's arguing to pay for something that helps the healing process as opposed to not paying for it and letting it "Heal naturally"

    Just like a broken bone there is no guarantee the economy WILL heal naturally.
     
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    My experience says the opposite. And I am living in a country that the welfare state is in attack and in apparent cuts for more than a decade. The things are going worse. The country is going more and more deep in a crisis that there is no hope of turning down. At least with this system.

    Prove me with a direct cut, you optimize the service. If you say me, that the ways how it was done was inefficient, and you change that ways and it reduces costs, well, that is a cut. And a good cut.

    But for what I know of cuts, are cuts done without doing structural changes that would make easier to provide better services. In almost everything there are things to change and improve and that also would reduce costs.

    But, also there are things that you cannot analyze if they are deficiatiry or not. You must spend on it, yes or yes.

    PS: When things should be cut is when there is no crisis.
     
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    yes there is, and both are stronger if they are allowed to heal naturally. (yes, the bone needs to be set properly)

    throwing money at a bad economy never works, why do you think Greece is failing right now?
     
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    The first thing that needs to be cut is the bull ship. and that includes people making idiotic responses when I try to talk some sense. what you said here is what needs to be done, which is right, but in the other threads when someone else says HOW to do it, you insult them instead. without a clear cut solution, your right ideas are nothing but garbage.
     
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    Hahahahahaha!! Greece is falling apart because they have no money to throw at anything.
     
  19. The Real American Thinker

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    That is the only type of cut I propose.

    Not at all what I propose.
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Are you referring to your speech threads?
     
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    exactly, and neither will we when china stops loaning us money.
     
  22. TheTaoOfBill

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    That's not even remotely the case. This is how we handled recessions in the 19th century. During which recessions lasted longer (average of 6 years as opposed to an average of 1-2 years today) and the time between recessions were much shorter.

    Like setting a bone, if you take the time and money to purge out the problem areas and support what needs to be supported the recovery is much quicker and the time before the next recession is much longer. That's backed up by historical data.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    If China stopped loaning us money we'd find someone else to do it. They don't make up a big portion of who holds our debt. Not that China is even considering cutting us off. We're still one of the best economies in the world. And our dollar is still the strongest and most in demand currency in the world.
     
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    Conservatism is the problem, not the answer.
     
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    More evidence the right has no clue how to govern or run the economy.
     

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