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Everything Should Be Cut In Economic Crisis

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by The Real American Thinker, Dec 5, 2012.

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  1. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Conservatie propaganda. Should it would.
     
    Iriemon, Dec 12, 2012
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends on whether the doctor spends the $10,000.
     
    Iriemon, Dec 12, 2012
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  3. Iriemon

    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not many places I know where welfare benefits are more than $30k per year.
     
    Iriemon, Dec 12, 2012
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the results of that post WWII "austerity":

    Year - % chng GDP
    1945 -1.1%
    1946 -10.9%
    1947 -0.9%

    Source data: BEA.gov

    Not a good plan when the economy is already in a recession.
     
    Iriemon, Dec 12, 2012
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  5. FreshAir

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    when we need our safety net the most, the republicans want to take it down.. but of course they want to keep the tax cuts for the rich
     
    FreshAir, Dec 12, 2012
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    First step to restore sanity. Any welfare client who becomes pregnant will have to abort or face loss
    of benefits. Why are we supporting the breeding of our least productive and intelligent residents.
     
    Longstreet, Dec 12, 2012
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    The "safety net" is a major cause of our problems when it is more comfortable than holding down a job.
     
    Taxcutter, Dec 12, 2012
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  8. Iriemon

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    It's not for most.
     
    Iriemon, Dec 12, 2012
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  9. The Real American Thinker

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    I'm not going to keep repeating myself. The "military budget" and "military spending" refers to any military-related expenditure. That includes the FBI's counter-terrorism (not the FBI as a whole), DHS, and NASA. All are military-related expenditures.
     
    The Real American Thinker, Dec 12, 2012
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    Where did I say that?
     
    The Real American Thinker, Dec 12, 2012
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Semantics. Spending on the military, which is primarily national defense for fighting wars and not law enforcement, is about $700 billion.
     
    Iriemon, Dec 12, 2012
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  12. The Real American Thinker

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    That may very well be, but it doesn't change the facts.

    Which is still too much.
     
    The Real American Thinker, Dec 12, 2012
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    the war of drugs should be ended asap, it's a failed policy that helps no one, and the cost is huge on society as a whole


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    The cost is 17 billion dollars. No, I don't care how much it costs to house the criminal elements of society. Those costs would remain the same regardless of drug laws.

    Making a criminal act decriminalized only legitimizes the crime. It doesn't stop it.

    I like seeing heroin addicts and those who peddle that garbage have the boot heel of the state against their necks.
     
    SiliconMagician, Dec 13, 2012
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    How would the costs to tax payers stay the same? Do you have statistics on this?

    FYI, if you decriminalize something, that means that it would no longer be considered a crime.

    And really, should an act with no discernible victim ever have been considered a crime in the first place?

    At least with heroin you can claim that the user ends up a victim of their own actions,
    but study after scientific study claim that marijuana is no worse for the average person than either tobacco smoking or alcohol.
    (though given how bad tobacco smoking is for you, perhaps that isn't saying much). In any case, you see the point, don't you?

    -Meta
     
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  16. The Real American Thinker

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    So, let me get this straight. 8million on an educational channel that teaches kids numbers and letters and such is bad, but 17 billion wasted on fascistic prosecutions of victimless crimes is good?
     
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    Interesting so selling alcohol is still a crime to you?
     
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  19. The Real American Thinker

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    If you legalize, regulate, and tax it, you'll kill off the dealers with simple economics.
     
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    No, society becomes the dealer which is worse. I don't want to live in a society where heroin and other opioids are no worse than cigarettes and alcohol when it is obviously a medical class drug that needs to be used under the extremely close supervision of a physician. It is not a recreational toy.
     
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    ^ No, you're just legitimizing them. There is no regulation for a drug that causes psychological dependence straight from the get-go.

    The Great Depression ended in 1947, and the economy did not take off because of increased Government spending, you certainly cannot make that connection.

    Fact is, an economy coming out of a war, and a depression, and only staying down for two years? That's unprecedented. And we could likely do even better.
     
    Alaska Slim, Dec 13, 2012
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    Portugal and other European states have legalized drugs, and Portugal has actually seen their drug use decline.

    So you are, in fact, causing far more problems than you solve.
     
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    Is that in response to me or SM?
     
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    You, apologize for the confusion.
     
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    Okay, well, to be frank, you're wrong :razz: If ABC-type stores distribute the drugs, the dealers lose their customers, because the stores would offer a better product legally and probably for cheaper.

    Simple economics. Dealers would be forced out of business. Same thing as the alcohol black market during Prohibition.
     
    The Real American Thinker, Dec 13, 2012
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