Zimmerman Gains Over 100 lbs Since Killing Trayvon Martin

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  1. Dasein

    Dasein New Member

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    Well, relevant or not, at least we have proof Z has gained weight. There's still no proof T stole anything or broke into houses.
     
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    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wonder if the cops took prints at the scene of the burglary that happened by the high school? He may not have a jail record, but its standard for parents to get their kids printed in case they go missing. Being the stellar parents Sybrina and Tracy are, I am sure they did that and would have no problem turning that over to vindicate their son.
     
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    Do you think cops take prints for burglaries they didn't know about for months or that parents get copies?

    :eyepopping:
     
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    Vindicate him from what? Internet accusations? I'm sure they will jump on that. I know I would.

    The fact is, not a single post about Trayvon, aside from those addressing the night in question, has anything at all to do with the case.
     
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    RosePop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, him gaining all that weight is very important! It just shows guilt over killing Trayvon, so therefore relevant!!
     
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    I don't recall ever stating it was relevant. I'm not the one confused about such things.
     
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    I'm not sure how this concept is so hard for some to get. It's really quite simple. Had George simply acted like a normal, semi-rational person he would to this day be anonymous. But instead he acted like an idiot and regardless of what happens from here on out his life is changed forever. This would never have happened to me. It will, in fact, never happen to me. There is a reason for that.
     
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    I fear you are right.

    I am not sure why this has to be so divisive, why everything is black or white in this case, no pun intended for once. I do not understand why folks either think that Trayvon is a thug who attacked Zimmerman or that Zimmerman went out and killed Trayvon in cold blood.

    Only two people knew the truth, and one of them is dead.

    However, if Zimmerman used his noggin, let the police do their jobs, locked himself in his vehicle or left the area, I would venture to say Trayvon would be alive and Zimmerman would not be on trial, or heading to trial.

    All of that aside, I still do not know why anyone other than Zimmerman's doctor and his wife care about his weight.
     
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    I agree wouldn't have happened to me either.
     
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    Considering Z stated to police that he thought his shot had missed, and yet, the person screaming on the 911 call was silenced as soon as the shot went off, I think guilt may be relevant.
     
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    *grin*

    As to the "immunity hearing"...

    Had they have proceeded with it, that would have placed the burden of proof on the defense, and most likely have necessitated Zimmerman and perhaps other witnesses to take the stand.

    Now, assuming the the motion for immunity was denied by the court... then the testimony of Zimmerman (and/or others), could/would be called into evidence in the trial, and forcing Zimmerman to take the stand again.

    By passing on the immunity hearing at this time, Zimmerman's right to not take the stand during trial is preserved. While the burden of proof remains with the state, instead of the defense.


    Just my opinion obviously, but I think it was a wise/strategic move on behalf of the defense team.
     
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    True, but the burden is only 51%. He said, he said is 50/50 so Z only had to produce 1% to tip the scales in his favor. The fact, his team doesn't believe they can only produce 1% is very telling. O'mara doesn't want Z to testify AT ALL COSTS the reason for this could be self-evident, since Z lied on the stand at his bond hearing or it could be due to the fact that an Attorney can't ethically put a defendant on the stand that they know is going to lie.
     
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    Did they? found any yet? I'm guessing no.
     
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    I think that once you waive the immunity hearing, its gone forever.

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    Too much TV.. cops don't collect fingerprints for petty larceny.
     
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    Zimm has waived his "right" to a pre-trial immunity hearing. He can still ask during the trial via written motion, which Omar will likely submit with the standard directed verdict motion, but Nelson will deny it because it requires a hearing to prove the burden of preponderance of the evidence and because it will not be timely filed. Bottom line is Omar can't meet the legal burden w/o putting Z on the stand and he'll never do that. Z can't talk for even 2 min w/o lying. BDLR would destroy him on cross.
     
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    I could destroy him on cross...
     
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    Chris Christie's son?
     
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    I'm sure you could. :cheerleader:
     
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    Lol...What "facts"? Right-wing racists spreading lies about the kid's past are not facts in the real world.
    And it's irrelevant anyway, since the actual and relevant facts are that an unarmed kid walking home was stalked and murdered by an arrogant rent-a-cop after being told by the authorities to pull back and wait for backup.
     
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    Seems like they never have any evidence just speculation and undocumented slander. I don't think slandering the victim is going to convince a jury.
     
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    You need to keep up Margot. There was a burglary near the school. Now we have found out that while you members of the lynch mob have been saying for over a year that the cops concluded that the jewelry wasn't stolen we find out that the school cops never reported the jewelry to the real cops. Instead it was filed away as "found" jewelry.
     
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    Source please
     
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    [​IMG]

    You know it true you are just trying to stall and act like the FIOA documents aren't reliable because a conservative organization FOIAed them. Of course that makes no sense but when has that ever stopped you.
     
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    CTH Docs LOL! :roflol:

    Nothing there PROVES the jewelry was stolen. Tick, tock, trial's almost here!
     

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