China's Stock Market bubble

Discussion in 'Australia, NZ, Pacific' started by mister magoo, Jul 5, 2015.

  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I hate to tell you but Communism does not work.

    Socialism does not work.

    Now a little bit of Social Ideology within a Capatalistic System is the only thing that works.

    AboveAlpha
     
  2. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    3,115
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes, and that is exactly why I start these threads, to tell people that might not know...Australians are too trusting...too naive when it comes to these issues...
    Communist China cannot be trusted...thats the bottom line...
     
  3. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Messages:
    3,931
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Um there are more socialist countries, then not, and it can work, so can communism, they all have the same problem as capitalism does, US, we are the problem, but Capitalism cannot work forever, it is illogical to think it can. We cannot go on making a profit for ever, it means we always pay more then something is worth, it means then that someone has to loose or we make things up as we go along, which is what we are doing now. You explain how we can keep getting increased profits forever, have you heard of the "Law of diminishing returns". Basic physics, you cannot make something out of nothing, in the past we had slave labour and bountiful raw materials, now we don't have many countries left to use slave labour from and our resources are no longer bountiful for relatively free. So we make up things, like wealth that doesn't exist.
     
  4. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Messages:
    3,931
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Neither can the dictatorship, Australia
     
  5. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    The problem is about how a specific worker sector of the population believes they should be paid more for what they do.

    As example.....LAWYER'S AND INSURANCE COMPANIES!!!

    Just about every price hike has something to do with these two groups!!

    Speculators as well.

    I am extremely wealthy and I have worked very long and hard to be so and both my Parents were the first in their Families to go to College.

    I have a Great Grandfather who was born in the U.S. thus I am a 5th Generation American.

    I try to give back as much and as often as I can as I have created and help run several Non-Profit Charities that actually HAVE RESULTS compared to the many others out there.

    The method by which the United States overcomes it's economic issues time and time again is the DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES.....and we are right now on the verge of a few EXTRAORDINARY DEVELOPMENTS!!

    The two biggest being the development of QUANTUM COMPUTERS.....and NASA's WARP DRIVE which they are developing for real.

    These will be game changers.

    AboveAlpha
     
  6. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Messages:
    3,931
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    0
    http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/19/norway-denmark-finland-business-washington-world-happiest-countries.html

    I think food and health and shelter and power are more important, so your answer is to build a super computer and get off this planet .... good luck with that and all your money, just done a quick look and at this very moment I am worth about $196 not counting my car $8000 and land $100000 so I think I too am rich. I have clean water to drink, food to eat, a place to sleep and hospitals to go to, what more do I want.... nothing... the world to be happy with what it has, such a beautiful planet, lets put our energies into keeping it that way, not destroying it to make more money
     
  7. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    3,115
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Are these the computors that the US is spending $35billion sending them to everyone all over America....
     
  8. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    You obviously do not understand what the creation and development of Quantum Computers and a real Warp Drive really means.

    Unlimited Clean Energy.

    The ability to solve before impossible to solve problems with Quantum Computation.

    Oh...and one other breakthrough....the U.S. Military a while back had it's third successful test of it's new Low Temp. Micro Fusion Generator.

    NOT ROOM TEMP!!!

    Low Temp. which is still extremely hot but it is containable as CONTAINMENT has always been the issue.

    AboveAlpha
     
  9. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    No....Google just purchased a Quantum Processor from a company called D-Wave.

    Quantum Computers are capable of solving problems in every Alternate Divergent Universal Reality as they work with their Alternate Duplicates in other Universes....that is how they work.

    With these we can solve problems that will resolve all sorts of issues.

    AboveAlpha
     
  10. DaS Energy

    DaS Energy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,892
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Low Temp. Micro Fusion not available to Web search, do you have a source to research?
     
  11. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    3,115
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Probably not mate..he's Jason Bourne....
     
  12. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Search Lockheed breakthrough in Fusion.

    However Lockheed is only one of several U.S. Military BLACK PROGRAM CONTRACTORS and the Low Temp. Micro Fusion Tech.I am talking about did not originate from Lochheed as the contractos name is Classified.

    Still we have been working on Low Temp. Micro Fusion Generators since the Reagan SDI era.

    You can just Google NASA developing Warp Drive....and NASA has made everyone on that project sign Non-Disclosure Agreements.

    I created a Topic specific to this and you can read Ben Rich from Lockheed discuss current U.S. Black Program Capabilities.

    AboveAlpha
     
  13. DominorVobis

    DominorVobis Banned at Members Request

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2011
    Messages:
    3,931
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I am a scientist, I do understand, I also know it's not going to happen tomorrow
    Some problems needed solving yesterday
     
  14. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    What I post is valid.

    I do NOT make things up.

    And do NOT make a debate PERSONAL.

    It is very good advice to take.

    AboveAlpha

    - - - Updated - - -

    A Scientist in what field?

    AboveAlpha
     
  15. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I will ask again....you claim you are a scientist.

    In which field?

    AboveAlpha
     
  16. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    OK....DV....I see your light is on so I know you can read my posted question so I will ask a third time.

    You state you are a scientist....if which field?

    AboveAlpha
     
  17. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    3,115
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Mate I apologise for my Australian humour...actually I respect your posts very highly...
     
  18. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Thank you for the clarification.

    AboveAlpha
     
  19. Independant thinker

    Independant thinker Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2015
    Messages:
    2,196
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Every problem but the ones in this reality! Sounds like politicians:roflol:
     
  20. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2011
    Messages:
    3,115
    Likes Received:
    17
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Shanghai Comp down another 156...its a race to the bottom....
     
  21. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    We really need a source of unlimited Green Energy right now and I am fairly certain we have passed a threshold where no matter what we do at this point Sea Levels will continue to rise.

    The current problem is that Global Warming via CO2 emmisions has warmed up the oceans to a point all the Gel Form CH4...Methane Gel...that exists in astounding amounts at the bottom of all of Earth's Oceans and Seas as well as exists in Arctic Lakes and in Permafrost...is BUBBLING UP AS CH4 Gas.

    CH4 Gas holds in heat in Earth's atmosphere at a rate of about 72 TIMES that of CO2.

    So...no matter what we do....we have already passed that threshold and the Greenland and Polar Ice will melt.

    When too much fresh water mixes with Cold Salt Water which travels South under a thermocline of Warm Gulf of Mexico Water that travels around the tip of Florida and up North and across the Atlantic which is called THE NORTH ATLANTIC SEA WATER HEAT TRANSFERENCE SYSTEM.....what will happen is too much Fresh Water mixed with Cold Salt Water will weigh about the same as North traveling Warm Salt Water as salt water is heavier than fresh water.

    Thus there will exist no thermocline AND THE CURRENT WILL STALL!!!

    When the current stalls Warm Water cannot come up North and Cold Water cannot flow down south.

    This will cause an ICE AGE very rapidly...and it has happened before.

    Wolly Mamooths in 48 degree F. Siberian Summers were FROZEN INSTANTLY and we have dug them up with STILL GREEN GRASS AND FLOWERS IN THEIR MOUTHS AND STOMACHS.

    In order for that to happen a temp.change from 48 Gegrees F all the way to -165 Degrees F...would have had to occur....INSTANTLY.

    This could very well happen to us.

    AboveAlpha
     
  22. DaS Energy

    DaS Energy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,892
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Unlimited clean energy was developed in Australia and debuted at Copenhagen.

    It requires a heat source above -40* Celsius. At +50*Celsius it has the same energy of Steam at +600*Celsius. At 100*Celsius it has three hundred times the energy of Steam at +600*Celsius.

    Banned in Australia bit not China, followed by North Korea who built he worlds biggest Carbon plant for energy, then came Russia, followed by Indonesia CHINESE DRAGON.jpg .
     
  23. DaS Energy

    DaS Energy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,892
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Physics Known. One litre per second of 9,000 bar force to an 82% efficient turbine produces 720 Kilowatts electricity. Not bad for a 1 litre turbine spinning at 60 RPM.

    To heat one litre of water by +1*C in one minute consumes 0.076Kw, or 4.56Kw to do so in one second.

    It takes 456 Kw to heat one litre of water +100*C in one second.

    Carbon CO2 heated from +30*C to +80C has 9,000 bar of force for exploitation, or 720Kw electricity.

    Unknown is does the same Kw heating equation apply to Supercritical CO2 in its liquid state. The 246 Kw gamble to find out has not been proceeded with in Australia due to Liberals ban on its use even without going over unity.
     
  24. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2013
    Messages:
    30,284
    Likes Received:
    612
    Trophy Points:
    83
    What the HELL are you talking about???

    Are you infering that there is additional energy available after a PHASE STATE CHANGE?

    AboveAlpha
     
  25. DaS Energy

    DaS Energy New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,892
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    0

    Physics. Thermal work force is that force which exists between a hot and cold state. Seen largely in steam since the early 1800's.

    A 9 bar work force of one litre per second against an 82% efficient turbine generates 720 Watts of electricity.

    A 9,000 bar work force of one litre per second against an 82% efficient turbine generates 720 Kilowatts of electricity.

    Both Steam and Carbon-CO2 have all the properties of water.

    Steam cold +100*C, hot +600*C has a work force of 200 bar.

    Carbon-CO2 +32*C cold, +80*C hot has a work force of 9,000 bar.

    It known it takes 456 Kilowatts to heat one litre of water +0*C to +100*C in one second.

    Both water and CO2 come in a liquid state.

    The question untested is does CO2 also take 456 Kilowatts to heat one litre +100*C in one second.

    Carbon-CO2 is in a thermal energy state from -40*C . Domestic power generation occur at cold-10*C, hot +20*C.

    Unlike steam lakes of drinking water are not emptied bringing the gas state back to liquid, as CO2 chills itself as seen all fridge at Coles Supermarkets.

    A fridge like activity occurs, only without the electric compressor, and in its place absorption heating, plus in place of a restrictor valve, a hydro turbine!

    No mention of any additional energy.
     

Share This Page